What if this team goes 10-6?

[mmmdk]

10-6 ?

I'd say that Packer OL had me fooled. McCoach too.

In our dreams though.

6-10 much more likely.

[bobblehead]

Man, really? The optimism in this thread is intolerable. I don't think there is a snowball's chance in hell this team can go 6-2 here on out. This team has way too many problems...terrible o line, a non anticipative qb, no pass rush, bad offensive game planning, and a horrendous special teams outfit.

There is a whole lot of kool aid guzzling going on here.

Yes, its unheard of for a 4-4 midpoint team to finish 10-6...never happens.

Think before you type, most of us don't "expect" to go 10-6, but if you don't think its possible you are more deluded than those that think it is.

[Scott Campbell]

I'm going to sound like the asshole here but I don't think MM is the answer regardless of what happens with the season and I don't want him hanging around another year no matter what.

This is about my belief when it comes to M3 aka Stubby.

Dude we just got smoked by a crap Tampa team and a rookie QB. 10-6 aint happening.

I feel ur pain MP ! Da BEARS are right there next to ur Packers on that sinking ship ! Injuries, poor play and now Tommy clubbing that poor defencless olineman ? What's next, ... Cheerleaders ?

Yeah, but you guys are supposed to suck. Were not.

[sharpe1027]

I feel ur pain MP ! Da BEARS are right there next to ur Packers on that sinking ship ! Injuries, poor play and now Tommy clubbing that poor defencless olineman ? What's next, ... Cheerleaders ?

Yeah, rough year for both teams so far. At least we can both look forward to a high first round pick next year if things don't turn around. What? You don't have one next year? Aww shucks!

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I'd want MM gone even if they went 6-2.

2007 is too far removed for me to remember my man crush for him. TT is more than safe in my opinion.

He shouldn't be. For such a great drafter, he has produced two red chip talents (Rodgers, Jennings) and a bunch of average to below average starters. His best two moves since joining Pack were signing Pickett (pro bowler this year, defensive MVP this year) and Chuck (Defensive MVP every year prior to this).

Thompson's guy are not looking good. Even my boy JJ looks like just a guy.

Scary thing is this... The guys we're relying on week in and week out to provide intensity and come in to bail us out are going to be gone soon. Chuck, Harris, Driver, Tauscher and Clifton are all near the end.

[Partial]

Man, really? The optimism in this thread is intolerable. I don't think there is a snowball's chance in hell this team can go 6-2 here on out. This team has way too many problems...terrible o line, a non anticipative qb, no pass rush, bad offensive game planning, and a horrendous special teams outfit.

There is a whole lot of kool aid guzzling going on here.

Yes, its unheard of for a 4-4 midpoint team to finish 10-6...never happens.

Think before you type, most of us don't "expect" to go 10-6, but if you don't think its possible you are more deluded than those that think it is.

Given the schedule coming up and the fact we've not beaten a winning team since week 4 Indy last year (I have no idea if this is true, Bedard said this on the radio and I don't care to look it up), I don't think it's that unreasonable.

Ravens have had a much tougher schedule and look like an infinitely better 4-4 team than us.

Dallas looks light years better. They're OL is huge, Romo will have all day, and Rodgers won't have any time because there is a zero percent chance of having an banged up or misplaced tackle compete with DW.

Steelers are going to be damn near impossible to beat on the road. They've also won 4 in a row, including last night against the 6-1 Broncos. We haven't beaten a winning team, let alone an elite team in a long time.

Cardinals are clicking right now and look much faster and deeper offensively and better defensively as well.

We squeeked one out against the Bears when Cutler threw 4 picks. This was at home w/ two weeks to prepare. What are the odds we have a repeat performance, especially with Lovie having our number the past 5 years or so. I'd say slim.

I think they're going to drop those 5 for sure. The other games are debatable.

[cheesner]

I'd want MM gone even if they went 6-2.

2007 is too far removed for me to remember my man crush for him. TT is more than safe in my opinion.

He shouldn't be. For such a great drafter, he has produced two red chip talents (Rodgers, Jennings) and a bunch of average to below average starters. His best two moves since joining Pack were signing Pickett (pro bowler this year, defensive MVP this year) and Chuck (Defensive MVP every year prior to this).

Thompson's guy are not looking good. Even my boy JJ looks like just a guy.

Scary thing is this... The guys we're relying on week in and week out to provide intensity and come in to bail us out are going to be gone soon. Chuck, Harris, Driver, Tauscher and Clifton are all near the end.

But are the players not great because they didn't have talent to begin with, or because their talent was not brought out or utilized to its fullest potential? That is the question.

IMHO, the talent is there. This was the #5 ranked offense last season and now they aren't. Their special teams has stunk. They have lots of brain farts and generally play without much discipline. These are coaching and not talent issues.

If we had better coaching, guys like Colledge, Barbre, Grant, Hawk, etc may be thought of as 'red chip' talent.

[The Leaper]

What if I wake up and Jenna Jamison is sitting on my cock?

Both have about the same chance of happening at this point.

[outflow]

Man, really? The optimism in this thread is intolerable. I don't think there is a snowball's chance in hell this team can go 6-2 here on out. This team has way too many problems...terrible o line, a non anticipative qb, no pass rush, bad offensive game planning, and a horrendous special teams outfit.

There is a whole lot of kool aid guzzling going on here.

Yes, its unheard of for a 4-4 midpoint team to finish 10-6...never happens.

Think before you type, most of us don't "expect" to go 10-6, but if you don't think its possible you are more deluded than those that think it is.

Given the schedule coming up and the fact we've not beaten a winning team since week 4 Indy last year (I have no idea if this is true, Bedard said this on the radio and I don't care to look it up), I don't think it's that unreasonable.

Ravens have had a much tougher schedule and look like an infinitely better 4-4 team than us.

Dallas looks light years better. They're OL is huge, Romo will have all day, and Rodgers won't have any time because there is a zero percent chance of having an banged up or misplaced tackle compete with DW.

Steelers are going to be damn near impossible to beat on the road. They've also won 4 in a row, including last night against the 6-1 Broncos. We haven't beaten a winning team, let alone an elite team in a long time.

Cardinals are clicking right now and look much faster and deeper offensively and better defensively as well.

We squeeked one out against the Bears when Cutler threw 4 picks. This was at home w/ two weeks to prepare. What are the odds we have a repeat performance, especially with Lovie having our number the past 5 years or so. I'd say slim.

I think they're going to drop those 5 for sure. The other games are debatable.

Thank you for this post, I agree wholeheartedly.

And Bobblehead your calling me out for being delusional. Please tell me you're kidding right? This team has no chance of going 6-2 here on out. I challenge you to give a little reasoning as to why you think it is instead of taking a swipe.

[pbmax]

I'm going to sound like the asshole here but I don't think MM is the answer regardless of what happens with the season and I don't want him hanging around another year no matter what.

This is about my belief when it comes to M3 aka Stubby.

Dude we just got smoked by a crap Tampa team and a rookie QB. 10-6 aint happening.

Indianapolis Colts and Paul Justin. 1996.

[pbmax]

Ravens lost by 10 to the Bengals and scored 7 points. How do they look superior to the Packers?

Eagles lost to the Raiders. Do you seriously think the Packers couldn't compete with these two teams?

McCarthy has one charge. Fix the idiotic mistakes. Penalties, drops, mis-kicks and special teams coverage and sacks/QB trigger.

He gets any three of those done and the Packers will be 10-6. But I am not sure he knows how at this point. The only positive right now is that they had only 5 penalties versus Tampa.

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Ravens lost by 10 to the Bengals and scored 7 points. How do they look superior to the Packers?

Eagles lost to the Raiders. Do you seriously think the Packers couldn't compete with these two teams?

McCarthy has one charge. Fix the idiotic mistakes. Penalties, drops, mis-kicks and special teams coverage and sacks/QB trigger.

He gets any three of those done and the Packers will be 10-6. But I am not sure he knows how at this point. The only positive right now is that they had only 5 penalties versus Tampa.

Ravens are a mystery. The one big time team they beat was Denver and that was coming off a bye. They hung with NE, Cinci and Minne very closely, but still, you've gotta win big games. I'm surprised by the opposition that they have beat. I would have thought it would have been greater. That said, if I had to make a choice, I'd pick Baltimore, but I guess this one could can get bumped into my go-either-way group.

Philly is the best team in the NFC right now IMHO. They have disgusting offensive talent and are just starting to click. If I had to choose a team to represent the NFC in the super bowl and knock off the Vikes, this is that team.

I'm very surprised by your stance. They've got some really, really tough games ahead. Even if they plug the OL they still won't have the pass rush to shut down the really good Os. They're in for a struggle in my opinion.

[3irty1]

I'd want MM gone even if they went 6-2.

2007 is too far removed for me to remember my man crush for him. TT is more than safe in my opinion.

He shouldn't be. For such a great drafter, he has produced two red chip talents (Rodgers, Jennings) and a bunch of average to below average starters. His best two moves since joining Pack were signing Pickett (pro bowler this year, defensive MVP this year) and Chuck (Defensive MVP every year prior to this).

Thompson's guy are not looking good. Even my boy JJ looks like just a guy.

Scary thing is this... The guys we're relying on week in and week out to provide intensity and come in to bail us out are going to be gone soon. Chuck, Harris, Driver, Tauscher and Clifton are all near the end.

TT's best move to date is drafting A-Rod. Finding a franchise QB gives you a bunch of get out of jail free cards as a GM. Not that he needs them.

His drafting as been so so. He is over criticised for his lack of FA moves but the ones he makes seem to work out well. He seems to extend all the right guys and let the right ones walk. Financially he's a wizard. I'd say Ted has a few big successes and zero big mistakes. I think McCarthy is at least half to blame for any major holes in the team. I'd like to see Ted work with another coach.

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I'd want MM gone even if they went 6-2.

2007 is too far removed for me to remember my man crush for him. TT is more than safe in my opinion.

He shouldn't be. For such a great drafter, he has produced two red chip talents (Rodgers, Jennings) and a bunch of average to below average starters. His best two moves since joining Pack were signing Pickett (pro bowler this year, defensive MVP this year) and Chuck (Defensive MVP every year prior to this).

Thompson's guy are not looking good. Even my boy JJ looks like just a guy.

Scary thing is this... The guys we're relying on week in and week out to provide intensity and come in to bail us out are going to be gone soon. Chuck, Harris, Driver, Tauscher and Clifton are all near the end.

TT's best move to date is drafting A-Rod. Finding a franchise QB gives you a bunch of get out of jail free cards as a GM. Not that he needs them.

His drafting as been so so. He is over criticised for his lack of FA moves but the ones he makes seem to work out well. He seems to extend all the right guys and let the right ones walk. Financially he's a wizard. I'd say Ted has a few big successes and zero big mistakes. I think McCarthy is at least half to blame for any major holes in the team. I'd like to see Ted work with another coach.

A few things:

Way too soon to declare either of the quarterbacks franchise type QBs. Both have to win big games and show they can carry a team before they can even be considered anything more than average players. I'll give Flynn the benefit of the doubt as I think he's a gamer, but Rodgers hasn't shown me much to date. Many of my gripes are coming to fruition this season. He puts up nice, efficient stats, but the only stat I care about is the W, where he does quite poor.

I will get flamed to hell for this but I've heard rumbling of an eventual QB controversy. You heard it here first. Flynn has evidently looked awesome in practice as he is an innovator like Favre, and his arm strength is getting better to match his pinpoint accuracy. There is a growing school of thought that they found a diamond in the rough out of LSU.

Ted chose the coach and has to lie in the bed he made. I don't think he is a great coach either, but I don't think the guys drafted are particularly talented, either. Lipstick on a pig is still a pig.

I don't think he's a wizard financially. He overpaid and overvalued Ryan Grant big time. He overpaid for Rodgers at the time, but with QBs the cost is just gonna keep going up, so I guess it will look reasonable in a year or two.

[Brohm]

At 10-6 I'd think we would still be out off the playoffs, unless one of Philly, Dallas or NY tanks it. TT and MM stay employed. Campen and Slocum still canned as there is no way in hell the players are going to start tuning in to them.