Number 1 rank Defense

[Cheesehead Craig]

YPG is not a true indicator of how good an offense/defense is and it's a joke that it's all people want to look at (not a slam on anyone here). It's far too easy to look at just the yards and nothing else.

Gotta include 3rd down conv %, penalties, ppg, turnovers, sacks, hurries...

I certainly disagree that the Packers have the #1 overall defense. Not nearly enough of a QB rush to count us as a league leading defense. Our run defense is outstanding, but with Harris out our pass defense will not be as good as it has been.

I'd personally put us in the top 10 category, likely around 7-8 with all things considered. JMO.

Who are the 6 better D's??

In no particular order:

MN
Pit
Bal
Den
NO
Cincy

With that said, I'm absolutely thrilled overall with how our defense has played this year. For supposedly not having the right personel to run the 3-4 they are sure doing a good impression of an outstanding defense. Other than a consistent pass rush, I'm not down on this D at all. I just don't think they are the best in the NFL, one of the best, just not THE best.

[bobblehead]

YPG is not a true indicator of how good an offense/defense is and it's a joke that it's all people want to look at (not a slam on anyone here). It's far too easy to look at just the yards and nothing else.

Gotta include 3rd down conv %, penalties, ppg, turnovers, sacks, hurries...

I certainly disagree that the Packers have the #1 overall defense. Not nearly enough of a QB rush to count us as a league leading defense. Our run defense is outstanding, but with Harris out our pass defense will not be as good as it has been.

I'd personally put us in the top 10 category, likely around 7-8 with all things considered. JMO.

Who are the 6 better D's??

In no particular order:

MN
Pit
Bal
Den
NO
Cincy

With that said, I'm absolutely thrilled overall with how our defense has played this year. For supposedly not having the right personel to run the 3-4 they are sure doing a good impression of an outstanding defense. Other than a consistent pass rush, I'm not down on this D at all. I just don't think they are the best in the NFL, one of the best, just not THE best.

In no particular order Baltimore just gave up 17 points to a guy who threw one NFL pass and was a third stringer.

NO gave up 23 to the rams and almost lost.

Cincy gave up YIKES 37 to the browns (doesnt' count...browns suck)

Minn gave up 20 to the browns (see above)

Anyway you get the point. On any given sunday and all, but the bottom line is that the GB defense has given up fewer yards than any other and a handful of the scores were set up by short fields and special teams gaffes.

In my gut I don't feel we are the best D in the league, but I can't clearly say who's is better either. That being the case I'll defer to our #1 ranking....plus we flat out punked dallas which makes me a believer.

[Fosco33]

Gotta look at yards/play, 3rd down %, sacks. turnovers, def points scored and obviously allowed. The yards/pass gained - allowed is pretty telling. That said GB is top 5-10 overall due to strength of schedule and inconsistencies.

[gex]

YPG is not a true indicator of how good an offense/defense is and it's a joke that it's all people want to look at (not a slam on anyone here). It's far too easy to look at just the yards and nothing else.

Gotta include 3rd down conv %, penalties, ppg, turnovers, sacks, hurries...

I certainly disagree that the Packers have the #1 overall defense. Not nearly enough of a QB rush to count us as a league leading defense. Our run defense is outstanding, but with Harris out our pass defense will not be as good as it has been.

I'd personally put us in the top 10 category, likely around 7-8 with all things considered. JMO.

Who are the 6 better D's??

In no particular order:

MN
Pit
Bal
Den
NO
Cincy

With that said, I'm absolutely thrilled overall with how our defense has played this year. For supposedly not having the right personel to run the 3-4 they are sure doing a good impression of an outstanding defense. Other than a consistent pass rush, I'm not down on this D at all. I just don't think they are the best in the NFL, one of the best, just not THE best.

In no particular order Baltimore just gave up 17 points to a guy who threw one NFL pass and was a third stringer.

NO gave up 23 to the rams and almost lost.

Cincy gave up YIKES 37 to the browns (doesnt' count...browns suck)

Minn gave up 20 to the browns (see above)

Anyway you get the point. On any given sunday and all, but the bottom line is that the GB defense has given up fewer yards than any other and a handful of the scores were set up by short fields and special teams gaffes.

In my gut I don't feel we are the best D in the league, but I can't clearly say who's is better either. That being the case I'll defer to our #1 ranking....plus we flat out punked dallas which makes me a believer.

Well said, I'll 2nd that.
Go ahead Packer Nation lets thump our chests and enjoy this sucsess.
Dom is a great coordinater and this is just the start

[Cheesehead Craig]

Anyway you get the point. On any given sunday and all...

Oh I agree. Any Sunday a great defense can look bad. We've had our share too. You and I both agree though that we have a very, very good defense here that we're overall pretty happy with.

[KYPack]

YPG is not a true indicator of how good an offense/defense is and it's a joke that it's all people want to look at (not a slam on anyone here). It's far too easy to look at just the yards and nothing else.

Gotta include 3rd down conv %, penalties, ppg, turnovers, sacks, hurries...

I certainly disagree that the Packers have the #1 overall defense. Not nearly enough of a QB rush to count us as a league leading defense. Our run defense is outstanding, but with Harris out our pass defense will not be as good as it has been.

I'd personally put us in the top 10 category, likely around 7-8 with all things considered. JMO.

Who are the 6 better D's??

In no particular order:

MN
Pit
Bal
Den
NO
Cincy

With that said, I'm absolutely thrilled overall with how our defense has played this year. For supposedly not having the right personel to run the 3-4 they are sure doing a good impression of an outstanding defense. Other than a consistent pass rush, I'm not down on this D at all. I just don't think they are the best in the NFL, one of the best, just not THE best.

In no particular order Baltimore just gave up 17 points to a guy who threw one NFL pass and was a third stringer.

NO gave up 23 to the rams and almost lost.

Cincy gave up YIKES 37 to the browns (doesnt' count...browns suck)

Minn gave up 20 to the browns (see above)

Anyway you get the point. On any given sunday and all, but the bottom line is that the GB defense has given up fewer yards than any other and a handful of the scores were set up by short fields and special teams gaffes.

In my gut I don't feel we are the best D in the league, but I can't clearly say who's is better either. That being the case I'll defer to our #1 ranking....plus we flat out punked dallas which makes me a believer.

Cincy gave up 27 points to the Browns in two games. They held 'em to 20 and 7. You must have looked at last year or something.

GB has a good defense. They've held the mark after losing two key guys. The Bengals have a solid defense, also. If we can play better D than the Bengals, we'll be in great shape.

[Brandon494]

In no particular order Baltimore just gave up 17 points to a guy who threw one NFL pass and was a third stringer.

NO gave up 23 to the rams and almost lost.

Cincy gave up YIKES 37 to the browns (doesnt' count...browns suck)

Minn gave up 20 to the browns (see above)

Anyway you get the point. On any given sunday and all, but the bottom line is that the GB defense has given up fewer yards than any other and a handful of the scores were set up by short fields and special teams gaffes.

In my gut I don't feel we are the best D in the league, but I can't clearly say who's is better either. That being the case I'll defer to our #1 ranking....plus we flat out punked dallas which makes me a believer.

If you are going to include those games you might want to include the game where TB scored 38 against us with their rookie QB.

[Smidgeon]

In no particular order Baltimore just gave up 17 points to a guy who threw one NFL pass and was a third stringer.

NO gave up 23 to the rams and almost lost.

Cincy gave up YIKES 37 to the browns (doesnt' count...browns suck)

Minn gave up 20 to the browns (see above)

Anyway you get the point. On any given sunday and all, but the bottom line is that the GB defense has given up fewer yards than any other and a handful of the scores were set up by short fields and special teams gaffes.

In my gut I don't feel we are the best D in the league, but I can't clearly say who's is better either. That being the case I'll defer to our #1 ranking....plus we flat out punked dallas which makes me a believer.

If you are going to include those games you might want to include the game where TB scored 38 against us with their rookie QB.

Which means all the teams have cupcake opponents and you can't correct for who plays whom.

[Packers4Ever]

Re: Number 1 rank Defense

Who would have thought after 11 weeks the Packers changing from 4-3 to 3-4 would have the number one ranked defense? I sure didn't. I would have thought top ten, but number one no way.

Hey 4to84, where did you read we were #1 ranked D ?
Or was it online or ? Just curious as I have friends who
will be asking and I didn't think we'd climbed quite that
high yet - soon, but not yet

[boiga]

JSO has it written up here: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/78159552.html

I'm also a big fan of Football Outsider's adjusted stats which include things like takeaways, 3rd down conversions, and opponent strength. They mark as 1st over all defense.

They mark us as 6th against the pass and 4th against the run.
However, when recent games are given higher priority, we're marked at a virtual tie with Pittsburgh. Baltimore, Phili, and Indy are all in the running.

The vikings are #1 against the run, which should be no surprise, but are actually below average against the pass. That could be partly because they've been up in so many games this season that teams always pass against them, but winfield's absence hurt too.

[RashanGary]

Rodgers threw three interceptions and the ST's gave up 7 points and put them at the Packers 20 on kick returns. Hard to fault the defense for that shit performance by Rodgers and the ST unit. They were put in bad spots all game long.

[Smidgeon]

Re: Number 1 rank Defense

Who would have thought after 11 weeks the Packers changing from 4-3 to 3-4 would have the number one ranked defense? I sure didn't. I would have thought top ten, but number one no way.

Hey 4to84, where did you read we were #1 ranked D ?
Or was it online or ? Just curious as I have friends who
will be asking and I didn't think we'd climbed quite that
high yet - soon, but not yet

If you go to NFL.com team stats, they have it there too under yards per game.

[Brandon494]

Rodgers threw three interceptions and the ST's gave up 7 points and put them at the Packers 20 on kick returns. Hard to fault the defense for that shit performance by Rodgers and the ST unit. They were put in bad spots all game long.

Yea AR threw 3 INTs but he also had 3 TDs that game. I don't really want to hear that they were put in bad spots all game when you blew a 11 point lead to a winless team in the 4th qtr. They had Josh Freeman looking like Steve McNair that game.

[bobblehead]

YPG is not a true indicator of how good an offense/defense is and it's a joke that it's all people want to look at (not a slam on anyone here). It's far too easy to look at just the yards and nothing else.

Gotta include 3rd down conv %, penalties, ppg, turnovers, sacks, hurries...

I certainly disagree that the Packers have the #1 overall defense. Not nearly enough of a QB rush to count us as a league leading defense. Our run defense is outstanding, but with Harris out our pass defense will not be as good as it has been.

I'd personally put us in the top 10 category, likely around 7-8 with all things considered. JMO.

Who are the 6 better D's??

In no particular order:

MN
Pit
Bal
Den
NO
Cincy

With that said, I'm absolutely thrilled overall with how our defense has played this year. For supposedly not having the right personel to run the 3-4 they are sure doing a good impression of an outstanding defense. Other than a consistent pass rush, I'm not down on this D at all. I just don't think they are the best in the NFL, one of the best, just not THE best.

In no particular order Baltimore just gave up 17 points to a guy who threw one NFL pass and was a third stringer.

NO gave up 23 to the rams and almost lost.

Cincy gave up YIKES 37 to the browns (doesnt' count...browns suck)

Minn gave up 20 to the browns (see above)

Anyway you get the point. On any given sunday and all, but the bottom line is that the GB defense has given up fewer yards than any other and a handful of the scores were set up by short fields and special teams gaffes.

In my gut I don't feel we are the best D in the league, but I can't clearly say who's is better either. That being the case I'll defer to our #1 ranking....plus we flat out punked dallas which makes me a believer.

Cincy gave up 27 points to the Browns in two games. They held 'em to 20 and 7. You must have looked at last year or something.

GB has a good defense. They've held the mark after losing two key guys. The Bengals have a solid defense, also. If we can play better D than the Bengals, we'll be in great shape.

You're right, I think I glanced at the cleveland/detroit score as I was looking it over, my bad.

[bobblehead]

In no particular order Baltimore just gave up 17 points to a guy who threw one NFL pass and was a third stringer.

NO gave up 23 to the rams and almost lost.

Cincy gave up YIKES 37 to the browns (doesnt' count...browns suck)

Minn gave up 20 to the browns (see above)

Anyway you get the point. On any given sunday and all, but the bottom line is that the GB defense has given up fewer yards than any other and a handful of the scores were set up by short fields and special teams gaffes.

In my gut I don't feel we are the best D in the league, but I can't clearly say who's is better either. That being the case I'll defer to our #1 ranking....plus we flat out punked dallas which makes me a believer.

If you are going to include those games you might want to include the game where TB scored 38 against us with their rookie QB.

But I am including that game....and we are ranked #1...INCLUDING that game.