Moss to the Vikings?

[red]

When Rice comes back is Moss going to be happy sharing balls?

I'm guessing Rice is out till about week 12. Just my gut feeling.



Seems like a win-win to me. Even Viking hater Adam Schein is saying this is an outstanding move for Minnesota and a head scratcher for New England.

wes welker had like 785 receptions last year to lead the league. i didn't hear moss bitch about that

i don't see how this is anything but an outstanding move by minnesota. they were already all in, we all knew that. now they just sent a 4th round pick(no big deal imo) for one of, if not THE best wr in the nfl.

we need to hope for a win this week and for the jets to beat minnie before they hit their groove. this will give us a bit of a buffer for when we head into the brutal part of our schedule (which is like the whole second half)

[Rastak]

He'll be a free agent next year so my guess is he's be motivated and work hard like he did when he got to NE.

He was already in a contract year, and he pitched a huge fit. Nothing has changed about his contract situation, so I'm not as sure as you are that his attitude will change. Maybe, maybe not.

Nobody knows for sure what will happen but he pitched a fit and got his way. Pitching another one doesn't make much sense but who knows.

[Patler]

How long before Favre and Moss get on the same page? Other than Shiancoe, Favre hasn't been clicking with his offense from last year, and now they bring in a new element. I suspect it will be a few weeks before Moss can make a consistent impact, although just having him in the game and running deep might help them.

This isn't the first time NE let go of a player, and everyone wondered why. Somehow it never seems to hurt them.

[denverYooper]

How long before Favre and Moss get on the same page? Other than Shiancoe, Favre hasn't been clicking with his offense from last year, and now they bring in a new element. I suspect it will be a few weeks before Moss can make a consistent impact, although just having him in the game and running deep might help them.

This isn't the first time NE let go of a player, and everyone wondered why. Somehow it never seems to hurt them.

Agree. They seem to be very good at knowing when to let a player go.

[Rastak]

How long before Favre and Moss get on the same page? Other than Shiancoe, Favre hasn't been clicking with his offense from last year, and now they bring in a new element. I suspect it will be a few weeks before Moss can make a consistent impact, although just having him in the game and running deep might help them.

This isn't the first time NE let go of a player, and everyone wondered why. Somehow it never seems to hurt them.

It probably would take 2-3 weeks. Moss does have the advantage of being able to go up and get balls so it's possible to chuck it up without having that chemistry.

As for NE, yea what's up with that? They are good at trading some of their better players and not sinking. I think they missed Seymour though.

[red]

How long before Favre and Moss get on the same page? Other than Shiancoe, Favre hasn't been clicking with his offense from last year, and now they bring in a new element. I suspect it will be a few weeks before Moss can make a consistent impact, although just having him in the game and running deep might help them.

This isn't the first time NE let go of a player, and everyone wondered why. Somehow it never seems to hurt them.

do they even need to be on the same page? favre just has to launch the ball and let randy go get it.

remember, moss made cassel look the a hall of famer the year brady went down

[Patler]

i don't see how this is anything but an outstanding move by minnesota. they were already all in, we all knew that. now they just sent a 4th round pick(no big deal imo) for one of, if not THE best wr in the nfl.

Not that it matters a lot, but I think it is a 3rd, not a 4th round pick.

Moss is still a good receiver and should fill a need for the Vikings; but I don't consider him the best by any means.

Is Childress coach enough to deal with Moss? Will the "Randy Ratio" return? Has Moss matured? This could be a very good thing for the Vikings, but it also might not be all roses.

[Patler]

It probably would take 2-3 weeks. Moss does have the advantage of being able to go up and get balls so it's possible to chuck it up without having that chemistry.

As for NE, yea what's up with that? They are good at trading some of their better players and not sinking. I think they missed Seymour though.

I'm not dismissing his abilities at all, but I haven't seen Moss much recently. I wonder if he is as good at getting the contested balls as he once was. He has had a long career.

Having watched Favre all those years, I'm not sure that I would want to encourage him to just chuck up long balls for Moss to go after. Favre will love to do it, but it is far from the best part of his game. The Vikings could be in store for a bunch of exciting catches by Moss and as many "What the hell??" interceptions by Favre. As a Packer fan, the more he does that and the less he gives the ball to Peterson, the better I like it.

[gbgary]

How long before Favre and Moss get on the same page? Other than Shiancoe, Favre hasn't been clicking with his offense from last year, and now they bring in a new element. I suspect it will be a few weeks before Moss can make a consistent impact, although just having him in the game and running deep might help them.

This isn't the first time NE let go of a player, and everyone wondered why. Somehow it never seems to hurt them.

immediate and devastating consequences. how long does allyoop take to master? unless they suffer season ending injuries at the top positions we'll need to run the table to stay above them.

[pack4to84]

This is just general thoughts to no one specifically.

What's going to happen if Favre gets knocked out and TJack is the QB? You think Moss will be happy about that? Is Moss really going to be happy without a contract extension? If Favre keeps struglling with a bad ankle and the Vikings go heavy to the run with AP is Randy going to be happy not being the focal point of the O? When Rice comes back is Moss going to be happy sharing balls? Does having Moss on the team hurt the development of Rice and Harvin? What if MN doesn't make the Super Bowl (You have Favre and Moss added to team and can't get it done)?

I think Minnesota upgraded its offense but are the question marks worth the reward?

What's going to happen if Favre gets knocked out and TJack is the QB?

Well, I am guessing they'll be damn glad they have someone that can go up and get the ball since T-Jack isn't very accurate.


Is Moss really going to be happy without a contract extension?

Probably not but even he knows you hustle during a contract year. Dogging it will not get you a deal in free agency next year. PFT said he demanded a trade after week one and he got it. He'll be a free agent next year so my guess is he's be motivated and work hard like he did when he got to NE.


If Favre keeps struglling with a bad ankle and the Vikings go heavy to the run with AP is Randy going to be happy not being the focal point of the O?

Hard to say. Like I said above, contract year. Being a crybaby isn't your best move with free agency around the corner.

When Rice comes back is Moss going to be happy sharing balls?

I'm guessing Rice is out till about week 12. Just my gut feeling.

Does having Moss on the team hurt the development of Rice and Harvin?


Not buying that one at all. More weapons opens things up for everybody.

What if MN doesn't make the Super Bowl (You have Favre and Moss added to team and can't get it done)?


Then Moss leaves, Favres retire and the Vikings get a 3rd or 4th compensatory pick for Moss.


Seems like a win-win to me. Even Viking hater Adam Schein is saying this is an outstanding move for Minnesota and a head scratcher for New England.

the highest pick a 10 year vet can get you is a 5th rd compensatory pick.

[Patler]

What if MN doesn't make the Super Bowl (You have Favre and Moss added to team and can't get it done)?

Then Moss leaves, Favres retire and the Vikings get a 3rd or 4th compensatory pick for Moss.

the highest pick a 10 year vet can get you is a 5th rd compensatory pick.

...and it is impossible to predict what they might get, because it also depends on who the Vikings might sign as FAs. They might get nothing at all.

[Scott Campbell]

Double Patlerized!

[superfan]

Couple random thoughts:

1. It's now or never for the Vikes to get their new stadium approved, with the pending expiration of the Metrodome lease. Wilf has shown he will do anything he can to keep the team in the forefront of local media and put the best product possible on the field to help the stadium push.

2. Recalling the article by Brandt a couple weeks ago about how the Favre - Moss deal went down. Anybody else think ol' #4 might have made a request or two to upper management to get Moss? Viking brass seems to be willing to do whatever is necessary to keep their starting QB happy, and are perhaps learning from possible mistakes made by Packer management in a similar situation.

3. The Patriots really look pretty weak on paper now. Brady, Welker coming off a serious injury, some TE potential, and that's about it. No running game to speak of and a porous defense. If they were any team other than the Patriots, they would look like an 8-8 team at best.

[mngolf19]

I think this hurts the Vikings long-term. They are getting old and need replacements at key positions. Number 1 being what do they do at QB when BF retires.

Now they are trading away draft picks for a 13 game rental. I heard on NFL radio this morning that the Vikings were not going to extend Moss. If they did Greenway, Lieber et al who were told there would be no extensions or raises would be lied to for a 2nd time this year (BF and Moss).

I don't think they care. They want to win it all this year. They can worry about the long term when it becomes reality. Teams wax and wane, but he shine never comes off a Lombardi trophy.

I don't think they do either.

But they will care when they become the next Detroit Lions with Barry Sanders. How many 5-11 to 9-7 seasons can you take in a row?

I fail to see how trading a 3rd round pick is going to cause this.

[swede]

Moss was drafted the same year as Vonnie Holiday, wasn't he? Was that '99?

The dude is old. Not as old as Grandpa, but still old.

I think the Vikings are trying to jump through a window that slammed shut last winter.