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Yep. The reason I pointed out the story wasn't the HOF talk, it was because they compared Rodgers numbers to the likes of Aikman, Young, Marino, Moon. You get to see how his first three years compare to their first three years and it's amazing how hand over fist better he is. They even put his numbers up against Peyton, Brady and Favre and his numbers are still amazing.Originally posted by Pugger View PostBut until he does all this Canton talk is a tad premature.- Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.
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Maybe one more rape - er, ring - and he's in, much like Terry...Originally posted by Tarlam! View PostThis talk is premature. Does Ben Rapistberger get in cause e has some rings? I say, no, he hasn't deserved it yet.."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Because the Steelers throw more than they used to, Ben will probably get in. When he retires, he'll be at least top 10 in passing yards, and at least top 15 in TD's. Add to that the Super Bowls, and he's in.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Something that is going to keep Ben out is the stain on the NFL he's left. The rape, the motorcycle accident, the telling Bradshaw to go fuck himself (in not so many words). When they enshrine someone, they look at everything, not just his raw playing ability. That's the reason Ben has to have more to get in. I also think it's a general consensous that Ben was not the reason the steelers won either super bowl. It was the running game and the defense. There's very little doubt about the impact Rodgers has had on the Packers organization, and the way he handled the Favre saga only helps his chances.- Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.
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Head, Arm, Ball security, legs, durability, leadership, work ethic. . . . .
There is no QB in the league right now better than Aaron Rodgers. The reason he has a good chance to get in is because he's at the top of the league for at least a year and if he does it for two or three, he gets in on pure dominance.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Except for the legs, one could argue that Peyton beats Rodgers in all the other categories.Originally posted by JustinHarrell View PostHead, Arm, Ball security, legs, durability, leadership, work ethic. . . . .
There is no QB in the league right now better than Aaron Rodgers. The reason he has a good chance to get in is because he's at the top of the league for at least a year and if he does it for two or three, he gets in on pure dominance.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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Peyton doesn't come close in the head category. Sure, he knows where to throw the ball, but you can fluster him and if you do, he calls his teammates out publicly after the game. Kinda kills team cohesiveness there. I have never seen Rodgers be anything but diplomatic. He plays the press the way he plays his guitar and if you've ever heard him play...Originally posted by Smidgeon View PostExcept for the legs, one could argue that Peyton beats Rodgers in all the other categories."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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Originally posted by Smidgeon View PostExcept for the legs, one could argue that Peyton beats Rodgers in all the other categories.Originally posted by MJZiggy View PostPeyton doesn't come close in the head category. Sure, he knows where to throw the ball, but you can fluster him and if you do, he calls his teammates out publicly after the game. Kinda kills team cohesiveness there. I have never seen Rodgers be anything but diplomatic.Work Ethic - Manning's middle name.Originally posted by JustinHarrell View PostHead, Arm, Ball security, legs, durability, leadership, work ethic. . . . .
There is no QB in the league right now better than Aaron Rodgers. The reason he has a good chance to get in is because he's at the top of the league for at least a year and if he does it for two or three, he gets in on pure dominance.
Durability - Manning hasn't missed any games, Rodgers has and is an ongoing concussion risk
Leadership - I think Rodgers is a great leader, but to have him a clear cut #1 is more than I'd do. Ziggy's right, Manning throws teammates under a bus, but he's gotten better
Arm - Brady, Brees
Legs - Vick, by a mile.
Maybe JH's posts was no QB demonstrated the combination, that I can support. One parameter that's missing is accuracy. I think Rodgers is close to #1 there, too. But this is a discussion about Canton. Rodgers has been a Godsend to a fan base that feared the worst. But Canton? He needs at least 2 league MVPs IMHO plus his numbers.
And heaven forbid if the weapons on offense becomes mediocre.
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Neither Brady or Brees has Rodgers' arm.Originally posted by Tarlam! View PostWork Ethic - Manning's middle name.
Durability - Manning hasn't missed any games, Rodgers has and is an ongoing concussion risk
Leadership - I think Rodgers is a great leader, but to have him a clear cut #1 is more than I'd do. Ziggy's right, Manning throws teammates under a bus, but he's gotten better
Arm - Brady, Brees
Legs - Vick, by a mile.
Maybe JH's posts was no QB demonstrated the combination, that I can support. One parameter that's missing is accuracy. I think Rodgers is close to #1 there, too. But this is a discussion about Canton. Rodgers has been a Godsend to a fan base that feared the worst. But Canton? He needs at least 2 league MVPs IMHO plus his numbers.
And heaven forbid if the weapons on offense becomes mediocre.
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If you are looking for an arm better than Rodgers look no further than Matt Stafford. With Russel gone he has to be the strongest arm in the league. Brady? No way. Brady? Maybe.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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