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  • #16
    Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
    I think Rodgers only needs 2 to 4 more years of solid play to get in. If he keeps up his play and gets another ring, I think he's a lock.
    But until he does all this Canton talk is a tad premature.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Pugger View Post
      But until he does all this Canton talk is a tad premature.
      Yep. The reason I pointed out the story wasn't the HOF talk, it was because they compared Rodgers numbers to the likes of Aikman, Young, Marino, Moon. You get to see how his first three years compare to their first three years and it's amazing how hand over fist better he is. They even put his numbers up against Peyton, Brady and Favre and his numbers are still amazing.
      - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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      • #18
        This talk is premature. Does Ben Rapistberger get in cause e has some rings? I say, no, he hasn't deserved it yet.Favre goes for his 3 MVPs.

        If Rodgers keeps it up, I'm sure he'll do enough, but he's still gotta do it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
          This talk is premature. Does Ben Rapistberger get in cause e has some rings? I say, no, he hasn't deserved it yet..
          Maybe one more rape - er, ring - and he's in, much like Terry...
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #20
            Because the Steelers throw more than they used to, Ben will probably get in. When he retires, he'll be at least top 10 in passing yards, and at least top 15 in TD's. Add to that the Super Bowls, and he's in.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #21
              Something that is going to keep Ben out is the stain on the NFL he's left. The rape, the motorcycle accident, the telling Bradshaw to go fuck himself (in not so many words). When they enshrine someone, they look at everything, not just his raw playing ability. That's the reason Ben has to have more to get in. I also think it's a general consensous that Ben was not the reason the steelers won either super bowl. It was the running game and the defense. There's very little doubt about the impact Rodgers has had on the Packers organization, and the way he handled the Favre saga only helps his chances.
              - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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              • #22
                Head, Arm, Ball security, legs, durability, leadership, work ethic. . . . .

                There is no QB in the league right now better than Aaron Rodgers. The reason he has a good chance to get in is because he's at the top of the league for at least a year and if he does it for two or three, he gets in on pure dominance.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                  Head, Arm, Ball security, legs, durability, leadership, work ethic. . . . .

                  There is no QB in the league right now better than Aaron Rodgers. The reason he has a good chance to get in is because he's at the top of the league for at least a year and if he does it for two or three, he gets in on pure dominance.
                  Except for the legs, one could argue that Peyton beats Rodgers in all the other categories.
                  No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                    Except for the legs, one could argue that Peyton beats Rodgers in all the other categories.
                    Peyton doesn't come close in the head category. Sure, he knows where to throw the ball, but you can fluster him and if you do, he calls his teammates out publicly after the game. Kinda kills team cohesiveness there. I have never seen Rodgers be anything but diplomatic. He plays the press the way he plays his guitar and if you've ever heard him play...
                    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                      Except for the legs, one could argue that Peyton beats Rodgers in all the other categories.
                      Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
                      Peyton doesn't come close in the head category. Sure, he knows where to throw the ball, but you can fluster him and if you do, he calls his teammates out publicly after the game. Kinda kills team cohesiveness there. I have never seen Rodgers be anything but diplomatic.
                      Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                      Head, Arm, Ball security, legs, durability, leadership, work ethic. . . . .

                      There is no QB in the league right now better than Aaron Rodgers. The reason he has a good chance to get in is because he's at the top of the league for at least a year and if he does it for two or three, he gets in on pure dominance.
                      Work Ethic - Manning's middle name.
                      Durability - Manning hasn't missed any games, Rodgers has and is an ongoing concussion risk
                      Leadership - I think Rodgers is a great leader, but to have him a clear cut #1 is more than I'd do. Ziggy's right, Manning throws teammates under a bus, but he's gotten better
                      Arm - Brady, Brees
                      Legs - Vick, by a mile.

                      Maybe JH's posts was no QB demonstrated the combination, that I can support. One parameter that's missing is accuracy. I think Rodgers is close to #1 there, too. But this is a discussion about Canton. Rodgers has been a Godsend to a fan base that feared the worst. But Canton? He needs at least 2 league MVPs IMHO plus his numbers.

                      And heaven forbid if the weapons on offense becomes mediocre.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post

                        And heaven forbid if the weapons on offense becomes mediocre.

                        Like when Finley and Grant were out?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Brando19 View Post

                          Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
                          Not surprising considering you were drunk banging my mom in the barn most of the time.
                          Fixed
                          Freak Out's Mom takes it in the barn???
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
                            Work Ethic - Manning's middle name.
                            Durability - Manning hasn't missed any games, Rodgers has and is an ongoing concussion risk
                            Leadership - I think Rodgers is a great leader, but to have him a clear cut #1 is more than I'd do. Ziggy's right, Manning throws teammates under a bus, but he's gotten better
                            Arm - Brady, Brees
                            Legs - Vick, by a mile.

                            Maybe JH's posts was no QB demonstrated the combination, that I can support. One parameter that's missing is accuracy. I think Rodgers is close to #1 there, too. But this is a discussion about Canton. Rodgers has been a Godsend to a fan base that feared the worst. But Canton? He needs at least 2 league MVPs IMHO plus his numbers.

                            And heaven forbid if the weapons on offense becomes mediocre.
                            Neither Brady or Brees has Rodgers' arm.

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                            • #29
                              If you are looking for an arm better than Rodgers look no further than Matt Stafford. With Russel gone he has to be the strongest arm in the league. Brady? No way. Brady? Maybe.
                              70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
                                Like when Finley and Grant were out?
                                Touché.

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