LeRoy: Brett Better Than Aaron

[Deputy Nutz]

Still a ways to go on that second championship.

[LEWCWA]

Yeah I guess, Arod is looking more like Brett than Bart, but hey he still has time.....it is tough to win in the playoffs and GB proved that today....Arod is a stud, just like Brett was for 20 years...who is/was better? Who cares, they are/were both awsome and we are very lucky to have had them both.....Hopefully, arod has a couple in him over the next few years, but even superman Brady hasn't won in a long time...it is tough to do.....and yes arod just had a pretty poor showing in a playoff game..

[Pugger]

But his RBs and WRs didn't do him any favors. If it weren't for Rodgers' feet we wouldn't have had half the 1st downs tonight.

[mraynrand]

Still a ways to go on that second championship.

You had to know the BFFFs were going to bask in the glow of the first Packer playoff loss. It was inevitable. The human condition....

[Deputy Nutz]

No I don't take glory in a Packer loss, just Packer fan falling off the ledge. A lot of people were already making room in the trophy case for the Packers 5th Lombardi Trophy. They were already pushing Favre aside because of the expectations of another championship in 2011. We did the same thing in 1997.

[mmmdk]

But his RBs and WRs didn't do him any favors. If it weren't for Rodgers' feet we wouldn't have had half the 1st downs tonight.

Spot on!

[Deputy Nutz]

I told my wife the first thing Packer fan would do, defend Rodgers and talk about his 66 yards rushing and 6 first downs. The guy had a very poor game by his standards, his Passer rating was 82% before his late interception. The offense was out of whack for 4 quarters, Rodger shares the blame in that, not all. He certainly can't be blamed for Kuhn fumbling and Grant's fumble, but several of those accounted drops were because Rodgers was not as accurate with his passes. He got Grant cranked on one dump off pass that was graded as a drop, but was thrown behind him.

[Bossman641]

I told my wife the first thing Packer fan would do, defend Rodgers and talk about his 66 yards rushing and 6 first downs. The guy had a very poor game by his standards, his Passer rating was 82% before his late interception. The offense was out of whack for 4 quarters, Rodger shares the blame in that, not all. He certainly can't be blamed for Kuhn fumbling and Grant's fumble, but several of those accounted drops were because Rodgers was not as accurate with his passes. He got Grant cranked on one dump off pass that was graded as a drop, but was thrown behind him.

I agree with what you are saying somewhat. Rodgers definitely wasn't on, but even if you disregard all the questionable drops that still leaves 5-6 others.

[woodbuck27]

Well I for one am glad Leroy settled the debate once and for all.

Seriously when will it end?

That Packer fans can't garner the strength to not have the respect of restraint is the most surprizing thing to me.

One of OUR most knowledgeable members of Packerrats came close to expressing what I sometimes feel.

This isn't an exact quote and may be toned down a wee bit:

I could not ever hate the Green Bay Packers; it's sometimes easy to hate Packer fans.

I take comfort in this fact. I must never be shocked by the ignorance of the prejudicial and narrow minded. When you make a BIG statement you have to include the BIG picture.

Saying that Aaron Rodgers is the GREATEST at this point in his career would be more inaccurate than saying (to illustrate) that Gayle Sayers was the GREATEST running back of all time in the game of football. Who is the gratest? Favre or Rodgers? I dont have enough information to make that judgement right now and I don't even imagine I may ever have such to determine that there is even any controversy.

Clearly at this point and looking at their respective body of works. Clearl,y Brett Favre is the greatest QB between these two candidates for such analysis by people that don't even have the sense to not go there. PLEASE !!!

For all that's deemed HOLY in Packer Land. Let this fricken debate go! Packerrats..... show some class.

[Pugger]

I told my wife the first thing Packer fan would do, defend Rodgers and talk about his 66 yards rushing and 6 first downs. The guy had a very poor game by his standards, his Passer rating was 82% before his late interception. The offense was out of whack for 4 quarters, Rodger shares the blame in that, not all. He certainly can't be blamed for Kuhn fumbling and Grant's fumble, but several of those accounted drops were because Rodgers was not as accurate with his passes. He got Grant cranked on one dump off pass that was graded as a drop, but was thrown behind him.

Rodgers clearly wasn't in sync all night long but there are enough guilty parties on both sides of the ball to share in the blame for this disaster.

[woodbuck27]

Neither Butler nor Jennings opinions really matter much when comparing Favre vs Rodgers. Butler played with Favre in his prime and Jennings is playing with Rodgers in his. While Jennings did play with both Favre and Rodgers, he only played with Favre two seasons when he was 37-38 yo. Rodgers at 37-38 will not be as good as Rodgers now if he even plays that long. Our opinions as fans should actually be more valued than Butler or Jennings because we have been following the packers are whole lives and have watched both play. Butler and Jennings are going to be biased towards the QB they played with. Even Driver didn't come on until 99', the start of a two year period of transition and missing the playoffs. 99’, 00’, and 05’ were probably his worst seasons.

IMO Favre is still better than Rodgers as of right now. They both have one superbowl victory, but Favre played 20 years without missing a game and played at a high level almost every year. He has almost every major passing record and played during a time when it wasn’t a foul to tackle. The only way Rodgers passes Favre is to win more superbowls. He will never come close to his records, starting streak, and likeability among fans (07 and before). Winning championships to me holds more weight than anything else and that’s the one area that Favre does not have a big edge. One championship in 20 years is not very good considering he was in the playoffs about 12 times in his career. I understand he played on some bad teams in which he was the only bright spot, but his playoff performances after 97 for the most part sucked. If Rodgers wants to even make this a discussion he can't let opportunities to win titles (like this season for example) go to waste, because while we currently look like we will be good for a while, nothing is guaranteed.

So as of today, I would still put Favre ahead of Rodgers.

Extremely well expressed and so right on.

[woodbuck27]

no way. They all know Sayers was better.

I see a nice trap there.

[woodbuck27]

I've really tried to stay out of the Favre/Rodgers battle. Very hard to compare the 2 IMO. I grew up loving Favre, and I pretty much love Rodgers as much as I once loved Favre. The biggest thing that is hard for some people is the fact the Favre was as much a "caricature" as he was an athlete for GB. He would do something in a game and people would laugh and fall more in love with him because he was just having fun and so on. Favre did some amazing things, no question, but there were many times he would make mistakes early in his career, but had an amazing defense that could make up for his mistakes. Later in his career that fact showed it's ugly face a lot. Granted he had some great years without a very good defense though. He also put up some crazy numbers without the type of talent Rodgers has right now. You can look and see Sterling Sharpe, Robert Brooks, antonio Freeman, Donald Driver...but none of them really played together at the same time. Sterling was with Brooks, but Brooks wasn't really used...then Brooks took over, and Freeman was the lesser used, than Freeman took ove and Driver was the lesser used...GB has had a nice run of #1 recievers, but never had likely 4 #1 guys on the team at one time, PLUS a pretty good TE in Finley. I mean come on, Bill Schroeder led the team as a receiver one season. The Packers running game for many years early in Favre's career were screens and dump off passes.

Now on the flip side, Rodgers is a Quarterbacks Quarterback. I would assume Rodgers could develop into a very good coach some day given his attention to detail. If Rodgers didn't walk into a situation that had Driver and Jennings year 1, it could have been a bad start for him. but Thompson has loaded this team with weapons, and doesn't care if we have 6 WR's to compete for 5 spots as long as the best 5 make it...at any position. I love Rodgers, we have to credit some of his success to the talent that's been placed around him. BUT...I don't think Brett Favre could have made some of the throws that Aaron Rodgers has made in the past year. He's been fun to watch, and I hope we can get some OL talent around him to keep him upright for many years. How many teams can say they had 2 HOF QB's play back to back and it lasted potentially 30 years? Bear fans will hate us.

Nice. Thanks.

[Tarlam!]

That Packer fans can't garner the strength to not have the respect of restraint is the most surprizing thing to me.

Clearly at this point and looking at their respective body of works. Clearl,y Brett Favre is the greatest QB between these two candidates for such analysis by people that don't even have the sense to not go there. PLEASE !!!

Let this fricken debate go! Packerrats..... show some class.

How about you begin and show them all how it's done?

[Packers4Glory]

Good grief AR missed on maybe 2 passes that he normally makes. The TD to Jennings on the 1st drive and the pass to Fin which you could probably make a case that Fin slowed up and didn't quite run a good route. The rest is on the receivers for dropping so many balls, many of which just killed drives. The guy can't throw to himself. Otherwise he did it all by himself last night w/ very little help. Driver seemed to be the only guy who came to play. I can't complain about the fumble, he was stripped as his arm was back to hit a TD. That's on the line.

And once again, AR can't do anything about a team that lets the other guys run to set up a hail mary...or other guys putting the ball on the ground.

AR, while maybe not having his best game of the yr, deserved a much better fate.