LeRoy: Brett Better Than Aaron

[MJZiggy]

Wrong, but nice attempt.

How is it wrong. It was something I read long ago. Are you saying you have proof that Favre's performance in that game had nothing to do with the Packers' willingness to move on? At one point Favre was contending that they were trying to push him out. Perhaps this was why. If you think I'm wrong prove to me that it was never said.

[Scott Campbell]

MM and Thompson didn't ship Favre out, if they were happy to get rid of Favre they would have traded him when he asked to be traded.

Pure fantasy.

Favre NEVER asked to be traded. He (and his merry band of filthy media whore family members and puppeteer/agent) asked for his unconditional release, so that he could go sign with MN without the Packers receiving any compensation.

And that is why so many people took so much pleasure in watching him completely piss away his legacy. He is now best remembered for being a creepy pervert.

And I love it.

[Tarlam!]

Your opinion stated above is filled with ridiculous stupidity. moving forward please impress us all with your legendary opinions on the Packers lore of the 1990s.

Fuck you nutz! If I want any lip from you, I'll rattle my zipper.

[smuggler]

Jesus Nutz, at least edit all those quoteposts into one. What compels one person have to run through a thread and respond to every little thing? More importantly, why did you need to use 8 posts?

[Brando19]

Well apparently he thought your opinion was dumb. Your opinion is that he is an asshole. I just found it interesting that you took the time to edit this post and still called him an asshole.

Pay attention to detail? oohhh...nice. Why don't you and Gloryhole get a room? Unless.......you're the same person!

[Tarlam!]

Nutz is just pullin' my chain Brando. We've been mates for a long time. His son is getting my #4 AWAY jersey.

[Packers4Glory]

Pay attention to detail? oohhh...nice. Why don't you and Gloryhole get a room? Unless.......you're the same person!

yeah..mods. Can we get an IP check on that please?

[smuggler]

Different people, Brando.

[Deputy Nutz]

Pay attention to detail? oohhh...nice. Why don't you and Gloryhole get a room? Unless.......you're the same person!

uncalled for. grow up.

[Deputy Nutz]

How is it wrong. It was something I read long ago. Are you saying you have proof that Favre's performance in that game had nothing to do with the Packers' willingness to move on? At one point Favre was contending that they were trying to push him out. Perhaps this was why. If you think I'm wrong prove to me that it was never said.

Perhaps, perhaps perhaps. Check out Favre's record in games under 32 degrees, he had proven he can win games in cold weather. If McCarthy wanted him out because he had a poor performance in one of the coldest games on record then I think McCarthy needs to have his head examined. If you think a coach wants a player removed because of one game due to his play in extreme conditions then you should also have your head examined and not believe or construct everything you read into fact.

[Deputy Nutz]

Different people, Brando.

But both AWESOME!

[Deputy Nutz]

Jesus Nutz, at least edit all those quoteposts into one. What compels one person have to run through a thread and respond to every little thing? More importantly, why did you need to use 8 posts?

I am obsessed with my post count. Why are you the post police?

[MJZiggy]

Perhaps, perhaps perhaps. Check out Favre's record in games under 32 degrees, he had proven he can win games in cold weather. If McCarthy wanted him out because he had a poor performance in one of the coldest games on record then I think McCarthy needs to have his head examined. If you think a coach wants a player removed because of one game due to his play in extreme conditions then you should also have your head examined and not believe or construct everything you read into fact.

Then why did I know we were going to lose that game before it started? Fact of the matter is that the coach has GOT to trust that his QB is going to give it everything he's got ESPECIALLY in the playoffs. Favre did not want to be there and let the weather get in his head. If I questioned his motivation to stay in and fight at that point, M3 must've as well. His total record in games under 32 degrees is irrelevant. The more relevant stat is his performance in cold weather games in his last two seasons or so. Hell, we went through an annual merry-go-round waiting for the diva to decide if he wanted to bother with playing another season--like for years.

[Deputy Nutz]

Again, this is your opinion and that is fine, not very logical but it is yours and you are going to own it.

Yep Favre didn't want to be there, he didn't want to go to a Super Bowl he wanted to be back in Mississippi riding his tractor. He lost the NFC Championship game, and lost an earlier game to the Bears in 50 mile an hour winds where neither team could throw the ball. His record in previous cold weather games is either relevant because it points to the fact that he can play well and had a history of playing good football in cold weather, especially in Green Bay, or according to your argument of it being irrelevant then the weather should have had no impact on the loss to the Giants, Favre simply made a bad throw at the end of the game, because in reality his overall stats where not that bad, not great but actually better than Eli Mannings in that game. So what is it?

Yep Ziggy I believe you, Favre is a quitter.

One more thing how did his off season decisions play into his ability to play in cold weather games? Everytime Favre made the decision to come back to the Packers, packer fan acted like it was a second Christmas. It was only after he decided to retire and then comeback and then was traded did Packer fan become annoyed. Funny how we choose to remember things, because I don't remember you bitching about Favre in the spring of 2007.

One more thing the week before in a cold weather game where it was snowing so hard television had a hard time getting a clear shot of the field, Favre had a passer rating over 100. 28 degrees is a bit different than a windchill of 30 below zero. Extreme circumstance that only a Packer Fan would make an absolute.

[MJZiggy]

The last post was my opinion (and "not that bad" is not the way I'd like to describe my QB's performance with a Super Bowl on the line). The first is something I read that McCarthy had said. Understand the difference.

What I question is his true desire to put in the work and play the game at the end of his career. I want a quarterback that is all in no matter how much work it involves and how sucky the weather is at the end of the season--the week before was nothing compared to that game. It was just snowy-not brutally cold. Sorry, but Wisconsin gets brutally cold. I never again want to look at the QB before a championship game and think "aw shit" and be right. You won't find much from me on the topic in the spring of 2007, but if it were still there, I'd have you reread my article the week before he retired.