OFFICIAL GREEN BAY PACKERS VS NY GIGANTES GAMEDAY THREAD - DIVISIONAL ROUND EDITION

[Bossman641]

Well, my lips were just on your wife's pussy. Why don't you dust that thing off once in a while? Asshole!

Enjoy your time off. I'm sure we will see you again the next time the packers lose.

[ThunderDan]

FYI mr blonde has been suspended 30 days for his post in this thread. I know yours was a joke so we will leave it at that.

mr blonde is the only guy I have on ignore on this site. I was surprised he had 3 good posts in before he turned back to his usual postings.

[Pugger]

Did anyone notice Stark's poor play? He half-assed a blitz pickup (4th and 5 after Arod and Finley failed to hook up?), he seemed to go the wrong way or be a step slow on that play when ARod ran a keeper, and he failed to come up with the screen pass that ARod overthrew ever so slightly. I thought Grant looked great on the first play, and was surprised not to see MM go back to him. Even more so when Starks started showing up in all the wrong ways.

I've never been enamored with Starks' blitz pick ups all season.

[Deputy Nutz]

What did you think of the throw to Finley late that he had to leap for? Bad throw or bad route? Any way to tell?

That throw to Finely was all on Rodgers, Aikman tried to make Rodgers look good with his comments afterwards. The throw to Jennings on the first series of the game was a mix up. Rodgers saw Jennings break free and threw it to his outside shoulder away from the safety. Jennings turned to the inside and got spun around.

[Jimx29]

Name a coach who plays him in a meaningless game.

Belacheat/brady

Rodgers seemed to always be off a couple degrees from the normal pinpoint accuracy we're used to. That wasn't they whole reason for all the drops and off throws, but it sure as shit didn't help. 2 full weeks w/o any contact when you're not injured just seems foolish....especially now.

Capers needs to be on the next train out of GB. First thing Monday a.m. wouldn't be too soon.

[Tarlam!]

Rodgers seemed to always be off a couple degrees from the normal pinpoint accuracy we're used to.

Rodgers was damned good in Week 1 after a much longer rest period.

Capers needs to be on the next train out of GB. First thing Monday a.m. wouldn't be too soon.

This is an over reaction, IMHO. Let the dust settle.

[woodbuck27]

Lol. Where did you come from

I believe he's a character out of Scary Movie.

[pbmax]

Did anyone notice Stark's poor play? He half-assed a blitz pickup (4th and 5 after Arod and Finley failed to hook up?), he seemed to go the wrong way or be a step slow on that play when ARod ran a keeper, and he failed to come up with the screen pass that ARod overthrew ever so slightly. I thought Grant looked great on the first play, and was surprised not to see MM go back to him. Even more so when Starks started showing up in all the wrong ways.

Yes on each example but he also ran hard and had a couple of nice runs for first downs, including a nice screen. I thought it was the first game in a long while that both he and Grant looked like themselves. He got blown up in the blitz pickup by a pretty decent backer and lack of contact for a few weeks showed.

But he was like the rest of the offense. It was all off sync by half a step or second. O line protected well but couldn't give Rodgers extra time unless he bailed. RB ran well (though not often enough perhaps) but had a fumble. Receivers did not seem on the same page as Rodgers and dropped a few. Rodgers was pressing, esp. in the second half. Any of those items clicks into place, the offense would have gotten out of its own way.

[woodbuck27]

I think what was happening was that Arod was getting frustrated with all the drops and started trying to force the ball alot. Also he started to put everything on his shoulders just like another QB that we used to have and thats when things started really going bad on the offense you could see it he was not playing like himself at all.

Aaron Rodgers demonsrtated his humanness. I still though he did his best to compensate. The best player on 'O' was on the sidelines most of the game. Donald Driver and we may have seen him in his last game as a Green bay Packer inspite of what he did that was positive when given the opportunity. I felt really bad for DD and Aaron Rodgers.

Damn our team sucked yesterday. It's really strange to me that MM felt that he had done his part to prepare the team and would have to look at it all to see what went south. Didn't he see the game the way the rest of us did? He has a house that simply needs some major renovations.

GO PACKERS!

[pbmax]

That throw to Finely was all on Rodgers, Aikman tried to make Rodgers look good with his comments afterwards. The throw to Jennings on the first series of the game was a mix up. Rodgers saw Jennings break free and threw it to his outside shoulder away from the safety. Jennings turned to the inside and got spun around.

Yes, Jennings clearly found an unexpected hole in coverage and tried to sit down in it and Rodgers expected him to bend it.

Finley ran a similar route and a similar hole in their zone, though it seemed less deep. Rodgers just never seemed to have a handle on where the coverage was going to be, his best opportunities were matchups and several of those were dropped/misfired.

[hoosier]

Yes on each example but he also ran hard and had a couple of nice runs for first downs, including a nice screen. I thought it was the first game in a long while that both he and Grant looked like themselves. He got blown up in the blitz pickup by a pretty decent backer and lack of contact for a few weeks showed.

But he was like the rest of the offense. It was all off sync by half a step or second. O line protected well but couldn't give Rodgers extra time unless he bailed. RB ran well (though not often enough perhaps) but had a fumble. Receivers did not seem on the same page as Rodgers and dropped a few. Rodgers was pressing, esp. in the second half. Any of those items clicks into place, the offense would have gotten out of its own way.

I know what you're saying about running hard, but it seemed to me that Starks regressed in the second half of the season. I distinctly remember at least three different occasions in the last six weeks of the season where he went the wrong way or wasn't where ARod was expecting him to be on a running play, and in each case Rodgers had to keep the ball. When Starks misses practice because of injury, his game performances really suffer--not for lack of effort but because he blows assignments. Maybe that is just a function of youth and inexperience. For all of Brandon Jackson's limitations, I think the Packers ended up missing him this year, much more than I thought they would.

[mraynrand]

For all of Brandon Jackson's limitations, I think the Packers ended up missing him this year, much more than I thought they would.

The Browns missed him even more - because he was lost FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON due to injury. And yes, Starks regressed after suffering a severe ankle sprain. So did Jennings after his knee sprain. Collins' performance took a severe dive after his neck injury too.

[SkinBasket]

FYI mr blonde has been suspended 30 days for his post in this thread. I know yours was a joke so we will leave it at that.

LOL. Never saw that dork's post. Jesus, can't a guy talk about vagina around here without someone going off the deep end?

[denverYooper]

What's funny to me today is that all week, the talk was about how New York could win with their fierce pass rush and ability to run the ball. They won for a lot of other reasons, but not those.

The Packers ran the ball for 143 yards and a 6.4 average. They held the Giants to 3.5 yards per carry. The Packers had the edge in TOP 30:25 - 29:35, were more efficient in the red zone (67%-40%), were equal on 3rd down conversions (50%). Just looking at those numbers you'd think Green Bay controlled the game.

The Giants had 4 sacks but they barely touched Rodgers until the 2nd half when Green Bay was in a hole and clearly started looking for longer passing plays.

Green Bay also got killed in the hidden yardage game. Turnovers and some poor decisions gave the Giants an average starting position of their own 42 vs GB's of their own 26. Pretty hard to win a ballgame when giving 176 extra yards to the other team.

[mmmdk]

What's funny to me today is that all week, the talk was about how New York could win with their fierce pass rush and ability to run the ball. They won for a lot of other reasons, but not those.

The Packers ran the ball for 143 yards and a 6.4 average. They held the Giants to 3.5 yards per carry. The Packers had the edge in TOP 30:25 - 29:35, were more efficient in the red zone (67%-40%), were equal on 3rd down conversions (50%). Just looking at those numbers you'd think Green Bay controlled the game.

The Giants had 4 sacks but they barely touched Rodgers until the 2nd half when Green Bay was in a hole and clearly started looking for longer passing plays.

Green Bay also got killed in the hidden yardage game. Turnovers and some poor decisions gave the Giants an average starting position of their own 42 vs GB's of their own 26. Pretty hard to win a ballgame when giving 176 extra yards to the other team.

In the first half 4 guys were plenty to pressure Rodgers & gave Giants more cover guys. And man it worked! The blitz packages came in the second half. If Packers O-line (ever) looks good it's solely due to Rodgers; if TT doesn't acknowledge this plus upgrades on D then cherish that one SB win from last 'cos that's all you're gonna get in the AR era. Unless the above mentioned is addressed.