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Nick Collins to Be Released by the Packers
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Remember Lang can also fill in at tackle if need be. I don't see anyway TT selecting a T in the first two rounds. I see him taking a O-line with one of our 4th round picks.Originally posted by pbmax View PostI agree, but two healthy tackles isn't going to cut it. If Sherrod is going to be OK, I think they will take a development guy for the 4th spot. But if Sherrod presents any concern, that moves it higher on the list.
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I was in a New York airport when I saw, in a newspaper, the selection in (I think) the second round of some guy, some safety, I'd never really heard of. I was so, so bummed by that draft pick. Some unknown named Nick Collins. When I got back to Detroit and read a little bit about him online, I was further bummed: athletic, but a slow learner, not sure he can adapt to the NFL, and so on.
Shows you how much I know. He became a superb safety after taking a couple years, like Darren Sharper, to develop. He was super athletic, and once he developed and understood, he was all pro. I think his loss this year was big - he could've helped cover up some of the pass rush deficiencies just with his ability to cover so much ground. There may have been fewer big plays (playoff game, anyone?) had he been back there.
As a fan, I have such mixed feelings. I'm a little irked on the one hand. I love my Packers, and if Nick Collins signs on with someone else - especially an NFC opponent - and stays healthy and plays well, I will be a little angry. However, this is tempered by my pride that the Packer organization really does care about its players as people - at least when it comes to the big things, like one's long-term health.
We all know how much pressure there is on these guys to win - from Murphy to Thompson to McCarthy to the assistant to the assistant special teams coach, the pressure to win presses down on them constantly. Knowing that, I understand how tempting it would have been to let Collins come back, make sure everyone knew you'd advised him not to but understood his desire to play, then cross your fingers and hope nothing awful happened, and even if he got hurt, it wouldn't look too serious - that any really serious effects would occur down the road, after Collins was gone.
But the Packers seem to really have been concerned about Collins as a human being. They just don't want the guy to take the chance, and they don't want to be the ones to allow it to happen. If anyone suggests they might've wanted to save salary cap money, I'll laugh. Four million for a year for a pro bowl safety? Very affordable. Very.
I can only conclude that the Packers just didn't feel it was safe, so they did the honorable thing.
What a blow to the organization. And at a position at which there appear to be few legitimate starting safeties in the draft. I've only seen three mentioned at all.
I do wonder what Collins will do, and which NFL team will take the chance and sign him. I'm guessing, if Collins decides to play, that someone will. My candidates (based on my perception of the organization's shady factor) are the Jets, the Lions, or the Seahawks (because of Carroll, not Schneider)."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Ahh Brandon494...just an observation but... it seems to me your better for that reach.Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostClueless...smh.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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You are annoying please do not respond to anything I say... THANKSLast edited by Brandon494; 04-25-2012, 01:08 PM.
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I feel worse about this one than I did about Clifton. Clifton played an entire career. He was even the oldest at his position at one point. Collins--well, it just feels like his career was cut short and we'll never know how good he could have been. I think there's a fair chance that if he'd stuck around, he'd have HOF potential with his deep ball, single safety coverage play. Now we'll never know and while that's good for his health, it kind of sucks as a fan who doesn't get to see someone talented continue to play.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostTough week with Clifton and Collins released.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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This as well.Originally posted by Bossman641 View PostDamn this sucks. Really hard to believe that I will never again see Collins covering an ungodly amount of ground to break up/pick off a deep pass. The thought of a Collins/Burnett pairing for the next 4-5 years had me really excited. Thanks for your time Nick!!No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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Yes too much on the line (LIFE) and Nick Collins hopefully handled his money well. He's been a great surprize as we all recall the moment he was drafted. A legitimate strong pick by TT that proved the Packer System can work.Originally posted by Freak Out View PostLame sauce. Sad to see Nick go but it sounds like he should hang it up.
Who the heck is that. Do y'all recall that moment when ted thompson selected him.All of us that saturday evening perched in front of the tube or at a PC waiting with abated breath.
Who did you covet instead of Ted's surprize second round pick? Personally I was begging for this guy**.
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Another really solid defensive player. We need our Justin Tuck in this draft.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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Then clean up your stinking attitude. That doesn't play here.Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostYou are annoying please do not respond to anything I say... THANKS** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostRemember Lang can also fill in at tackle if need be. I don't see anyway TT selecting a T in the first two rounds. I see him taking a O-line with one of our 4th round picks.
You should go to market research and if that pass's muster go to production and market 'that crystal ball' Brandon484.
It's special. Good Luck. (-:
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** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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Well said. I agree as well.Originally posted by Bossman641 View PostDamn this sucks. Really hard to believe that I will never again see Collins covering an ungodly amount of ground to break up/pick off a deep pass. The thought of a Collins/Burnett pairing for the next 4-5 years had me really excited. Thanks for your time Nick!!
I can certainly see why TT released him though. It would likely haunt him if he allowed Nick to come back and then something really catastrophic happened to his neck. I think they are looking out for him in the big picture of things which is far more important.All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!
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