Nick Collins to Be Released by the Packers

[Smidgeon]

Time to test out the ignore feature, I've heard enough.

I added rep just for putting up with it so long.

[George Cumby]

Timing aside, I have to believe TT et.al. are doing this for honorable reasons; the quote being something like "I wouldn't want my son playing."

[woodbuck27]

Time to test out the ignore feature, I've heard enough.

That needs to go both ways pbmax. That just for a start Sir. How can you place an abusive stalking poster like Scott Campbell on IGNORE when he continually stalks me? How is that certain claim handled by you pbmax..to protect me?

You'll sit there and watch and watch the likes of Scott Campbell do his abuse...the most outrageous garbage posts on and on and on and that's just great. You suspend him and he come back angrier and more beligerant and more viscious then ever and you glorify him.

How can you live with that pbmax?

Placing the likes of Scott Campbell ON ignore ISN'T THE SOLUTION. That hardly gets it done.

You need to institute a Scott Campbell RULE. That Scott Campbell has to stop his outrageous abuse or ban him for life from Packerrats.

Is that such a novel idea? it's my most sincere and honest assessment of Scott Campbell over six difficult years that he should be banned from Packerrats. How often has he been suspended pbmax? Many times...right!

So has that been any deterrant against his abuse? Of course NOT man.

Do the sensable thing and ban him from Packerrats.

If I stand in for myself or fight for respect I'm a really bad member here. BULLSHIT !

I can exercise the IGNORE Function but will SC go away? Not a fricken' chance. He's over the top abusive,oppressive,obsessive and mailiscious. He never lets go because he's SICK.

Scott Campbell has FREE rein. His behaviour is applauded ..as something amusing.

That's a good example of what..............SUCKS !

You have rules for me. A poster that has every right to fight for my dignity and respect.

You have NO RULES for Scott Campbell.

Posters here that imagine they can act just like Scott Campbell 'get in their feeding frenzy'.Thats never going to knock me down. That doesn't make it less challenging. When I'm challenged sometimes I'll have to accept that. That's my human nature.

Why should I be expected to IGNORE such abuse pbmax? That IGNORE feature isn't 'idiot proof' nor is it any blessing on me if he knowing I've got him 'on IGNORE' continyes to slander me.

Cut the head off the snake. Ban Scott Campbell from Packerrats... if he cannot smarten up and stop the abuse.

PLEASE pbmax do the exact right thing for this forum. I realize you do not have sucj power but you can impose on his abuse.

No apology from him is ever sincere. he's clearly a sick man.

Place the ultimate sanction against Scott Campbell..BAN Scott Campbell if he doesn't finally get over his obsessions and abusive slander of me.

It's just this pbmax.

Do you ever imagine I enjoy having to continually post for the respect I'm denied by the likes of Scott Campbell? If you do your mistaken. It's not a challenge it's OLD.

How many times have you read his posts of utter abuse of me. Outrageous abuse.You let that go even when I have him 'on Ignore' and at 'no time' question yourself? What about that is right pbmax? Maybe your not aware of how the ignore feature has this problem? He's even with his buddy Zool ensure I saw his 'dirt' by posting ZOOL to ensure i would. Is that fair or even funny?

Mad asked Scott Campbell and I to place one another on IGNORE. He did so what... months ago. I complied with Mad's request immediately. What did Scott Campbell do?

I respected Mad's request as a 'NO BRAINER'while Scott Campbell ignored Mad and just kept on truckin' his abuse. He never missed a tick. How did that work? His way is to beat a poster to death and then actually post that he likes that poster.That's beyond obsession that's clearly antisocial possibly psychotic behaviour.I'm no psychologist/psychiatrist so unqualified to diagnose Scott Campbell.

Scott Campbell often tells Packerrats that I'm mentally ill. I am NOT mentally ill.

Put yourself in my place for one minutes thought.How would that feel pbmax? From my position it's horrid behaviour on Scott Campbell's part. NOT hardly acceptable.

I'll do my part for Packerrats and put Scott Campbell on IGNORE again. It will be done in less than a minute.

What do you need to do pbmax?Maybe simply 'think'.


I stand by every word I've written above.

It's NOT fair for me to ask for Scott Campbell's banning. I will deal with his abuse as I always have done.

I am confident that Scott Campbell will get all he deserves. Life has it's way of ensuring that.

I retract asking that Scott Campbell be banned forever from Packerrats.

[Fosco33]

Collectively - this blows. Not totally unexpected based on M3's previous comments...

I'm a firm believer that this role is truly the QB of the defense - helping w/ communication, alignment, etc.

Think about when we had LeRoy and the dropoff... you could feel the defense suffer without Nick.

Now - I think we need to do ---
A - get a Jim Leonard type veteran
B - move Chuck
C - besides drafting, etc.

[sheepshead]

Not sure it was by design - the news is coming from Nick's agent.

Yeah, but TT could control that too. Maybe in each case the 'need' is there for the Pack no matter what... I dont know. Just seems like an easy thing to wait a few days.

[Zool]

The fact that Collins has been to 5 experts on the subject leads me to think he's not getting the answer he wants.

[Cheesehead Craig]

The fact that Collins has been to 5 experts on the subject leads me to think he's not getting the answer he wants.

Excellent point oh thick glasses one!

[pbmax]

Yeah, but TT could control that too. Maybe in each case the 'need' is there for the Pack no matter what... I dont know. Just seems like an easy thing to wait a few days.

Could be. But they have stalled since March and Collins, if healthy should be able to do some portion of offseason workouts. They may not have wanted to go down that road.

Clifton same thing if they pass him on physical this time around.

[MadScientist]

From the GBG, Collins is eligible for 1.5 M in injury payments (1M this year and .5M next) if he never plays again. Does anyone know if this money come from the league or the Packers, and if it comes from the Packers will it count towards the cap? I'm guessing it is from the league and won't be part of the cap, but I'm not 100% sure.

[Patler]

The timing is not odd. The new 90 man roster limit applies to drafted rookies immediately, not when they are signed. It also includes anyone on any roster category such as tendered but unsigned players, reserve categories, etc. If TT wants to draft 12 players and then sign a bunch of U.R.F.A.s, he has to have roster spots for everyone immediately.

In the past you could carry some players you intended to release, because drafted players did not count until signed, and some reserve/injured categories also did not count. Carrying deadwood right now might cause you to be unable to sign a player you like after the draft.

[pbmax]

The timing is not odd. The new 90 man roster limit applies to drafted rookies immediately, not when they are signed. It also includes anyone on any roster category such as tendered but unsigned players, reserve categories, etc. If TT wants to draft 12 players and then sign a bunch of U.R.F.A.s, he has to have roster spots for everyone immediately.

In the past you could carry some players you intended to release, because drafted players did not count until signed, and some reserve/injured categories also did not count. Carrying deadwood right now might cause you to be unable to sign a player you like after the draft.

Interesting. I wonder why he was in favor of it if it gave him less flexibility this year.

[sharpe1027]

Interesting. I wonder why he was in favor of it if it gave him less flexibility this year.

IDK for sure, but it gave everyone less flexibility so it is not like he was necessarily disadvantaged. It would seem to advantage a team that was able to evaluate well before players got into camp vs. a team that evaluated well only after they were brought in.

[Patler]

From the GBG, Collins is eligible for 1.5 M in injury payments (1M this year and .5M next) if he never plays again. Does anyone know if this money come from the league or the Packers, and if it comes from the Packers will it count towards the cap? I'm guessing it is from the league and won't be part of the cap, but I'm not 100% sure.

This is defined as "Injury Protection" under the new CBA, and will be included in "Team Salary" beginning in 2016. Apparently it is not now. If he passes another team's physical and signs with them, he does not receive "Injury Protection" payments from GB. He gets the second year only because his contract extended into the second year.

[sharpe1027]

From the GBG, Collins is eligible for 1.5 M in injury payments (1M this year and .5M next) if he never plays again. Does anyone know if this money come from the league or the Packers, and if it comes from the Packers will it count towards the cap? I'm guessing it is from the league and won't be part of the cap, but I'm not 100% sure.

It is part of the new CBA to be paid by the Packers and it will NOT count against the salary (starting in 2016 similar payments will count).

Here is a good explanation:

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/02/salary-cap-savings-injury-benefit-clarification-should-hampton-mendenhall-be-released/

[pbmax]

IDK for sure, but it gave everyone less flexibility so it is not like he was necessarily disadvantaged. It would seem to advantage a team that was able to evaluate well before players got into camp vs. a team that evaluated well only after they were brought in.

Well, if you draft only 7 players, you might pick up 3 spots assuming other counts are equal. But with 12 picks, Thompson was pretty sure to get squeezed.