Nick Collins to Be Released by the Packers

[Smeefers]

Originally Posted by Brandon494

"Saw this coming but still sucks, Collins was the 2nd best FS in the league behind Ed Reed. I doubt it will happen but I would still like them to move Woodson to FS next season." Brandon494

a) If you saw it coming why does it suck? Did you have difficulty dealing with 'your own' reality?

I always say that: Wisdom means relaxing to the TRUTH. Just as best you can be sure of yours.

b) Ohh....why would 'YOU' recommend such a move. Taking our best CB and moving him to a new for him position. Chuck Woodson has already expressed that he desires to remain at status; Packer management has clearly stated that inspite of anything Nick Collins. CW will remain at cornerback.

You've decided differently. Please inform us as to the reason you see it differently than MM. Enlighten us.

Thanks 'so much'. (-:

GO Ted Thompson ! GO PACK GO !

a) you can see a train coming, but if you're foot is stuck in the track and the train hits you, it sucks. It's not "dealing with reality," it's a common response when something shitty happens even when you know it's coming. Man, mom has been sick for weeks and I knew she was getting bad, and she finally died of cancer. man, that sucks

b) Wood said last year he wanted to stay at CB, didn't say nothing about this year. This is also the route many people, not just Brandon have suggested for woodson for several years now. So much so that it's becoming accepted doctrine that this is what will eventually happen if Woodson wants to keep playing after his prime. It's like A-Rod (yankees) finally moving to outfield from SS in order to keep playing. Nobody knows the plan this year with our lineup and wood moving to FS is a strong possiblity.

Clear things up for ya buttercup?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I feel worse about this one than I did about Clifton. Clifton played an entire career. He was even the oldest at his position at one point. Collins--well, it just feels like his career was cut short and we'll never know how good he could have been. I think there's a fair chance that if he'd stuck around, he'd have HOF potential with his deep ball, single safety coverage play. Now we'll never know and while that's good for his health, it kind of sucks as a fan who doesn't get to see someone talented continue to play.

I've seen it happen a lot now. Tim Lewis, Brian Noble, Terrence Murphy, etc. These sudden career enders to guys that aren't past their prime is tough.

[Scott Campbell]

I've seen it happen a lot now. Tim Lewis, Brian Noble, Terrence Murphy, etc. These sudden career enders to guys that aren't past their prime is tough.

Sterling......

[Guiness]

Originally Posted by Brandon494

"Saw this coming but still sucks, Collins was the 2nd best FS in the league behind Ed Reed. I doubt it will happen but I would still like them to move Woodson to FS next season." Brandon494

a) If you saw it coming why does it suck? Did you have difficulty dealing with 'your own' reality?

I always say that: Wisdom means relaxing to the TRUTH. Just as best you can be sure of yours.

b) Ohh....why would 'YOU' recommend such a move. Taking our best CB and moving him to a new for him position. Chuck Woodson has already expressed that he desires to remain at status; Packer management has clearly stated that inspite of anything Nick Collins. CW will remain at cornerback.

You've decided differently. Please inform us as to the reason you see it differently than MM. Enlighten us.

Thanks 'so much'. (-:

GO Ted Thompson ! GO PACK GO !

That was a little harsh Woody.

I don't know that Woodson will be moved to 'safety' per say, but I think MM will take a page out of the OL coaching handbook, and find a way to get his best players on the field. IMO that means Woodson, T. Williams and Shields are out there playing DB every down. Whether you call Woodson a cornerback, safety or rover, it matters little.

[woodbuck27]

a) you can see a train coming, but if you're foot is stuck in the track and the train hits you, it sucks. It's not "dealing with reality," it's a common response when something shitty happens even when you know it's coming. Man, mom has been sick for weeks and I knew she was getting bad, and she finally died of cancer. man, that sucks

b) Wood said last year he wanted to stay at CB, didn't say nothing about this year. This is also the route many people, not just Brandon have suggested for woodson for several years now. So much so that it's becoming accepted doctrine that this is what will eventually happen if Woodson wants to keep playing after his prime. It's like A-Rod (yankees) finally moving to outfield from SS in order to keep playing. Nobody knows the plan this year with our lineup and wood moving to FS is a strong possiblity.

Clear things up for ya buttercup?

A) "you can see a train coming, but if you're foot is stuck in the track and the train hits you, it sucks" Smeefers

No ...what sucks is that 'a man' your age, would be playing near the tracks. LOL You missed on that analogy IMO

"Man, mom has been sick for weeks and I knew she was getting bad, and she finally died of cancer. man, that sucks" Smeefers

There ...... 'of course' you got to me.

All the same I know this as it appears FINAL 'reality check' ......

RE: one of our very best. Never 'in the Green and GOLD' again isn't easy to swollow. Especially given the value of Nick Collins to our 3-4 scheme. This is a bitter pill of reality.

Imagine how all of the Brett Favre fans felt here and all over Packer Nation when TT turfed him. Maybe it's stuff like losing a Nick Collins that adds a certain understanding to how we need to feel across the board?

NO losing Nick Collins doesn't just ...SUCK.

It's alot worse than the Generation 'X' term that we have to bear...it SUCKS! That SUCKS !!

b) " Wood said last year he wanted to stay at CB, didn't say nothing about this year. This is also the route many people, not just Brandon have suggested for woodson for several years now. So much so that it's becoming accepted doctrine that this is what will eventually happen if Woodson wants to keep playing after his prime. It's like A-Rod (yankees) finally moving to outfield from SS in order to keep playing. Nobody knows the plan this year with our lineup and wood moving to FS is a strong possiblity.

Clear things up for ya buttercup? " Smeefers


B) Response woodbuck27:


All I know from what I read recently is that it's TT's and MM's stance on CB Charles Woodsonn at CB this season.That is what I read.End of that.

By the way I'm Woody or woodbuck or woodbuck27 to you. You may call me Ed or Eddie oe Edwin Thanks.

buttercup !? NOPE .........That's not me. Maybe if you found one you could call you lady that. Maybe I'm confused about your sexual persuasion. Life is full 'of mystery'.

I could call you 'Slingo' but that isn't right is it.

Have a Super day.

GO TED THOMPSON !

[Fritz]

I wonder if the team did it before the draft as a favor to Collins? Would the possibility of signing Nick Collins be enough to change a team's draft day strategy, causing a team to NOT pick a safety, thinking they had a potential deal with Collins?

It seems farfetched, I know. But I'm guessing. If the Pack wanted to wait, all they had to do was not tell Collins through his agents that they were planning on releasing him.

But then again, maybe they didn't want to tip their hand when they drafted a safety in the first three rounds or something.

hell, I don't know.

[Scott Campbell]

I wish Nick the best. But he better not sign with MN.

[Scott Campbell]

I wonder if the team did it before the draft as a favor to Collins? Would the possibility of signing Nick Collins be enough to change a team's draft day strategy, causing a team to NOT pick a safety, thinking they had a potential deal with Collins?

It seems farfetched, I know. But I'm guessing. If the Pack wanted to wait, all they had to do was not tell Collins through his agents that they were planning on releasing him.

But then again, maybe they didn't want to tip their hand when they drafted a safety in the first three rounds or something.

hell, I don't know.

Getting Nick's agent to play along with such a ruse seems like a longshot.

[woodbuck27]

That was a little harsh Woody.

I don't know that Woodson will be moved to 'safety' per say, but I think MM will take a page out of the OL coaching handbook, and find a way to get his best players on the field. IMO that means Woodson, T. Williams and Shields are out there playing DB every down. Whether you call Woodson a cornerback, safety or rover, it matters little.

Yes. I feel like I'm back in training. If I allow disrespect it just gets worse Guiness.

Why is it 'in the Land of the true north STRONG and FREE'. Piling on is disrespected? A true dishonour??

I promise I'm not anywhere even marginally close to full blown wodbuck27 will kick your ass mode. LOL

I'm being 'very nice' under the circumstances.

By the way. Nick Collins surprized me. The real issue with moving Chuck to FS is what is really at CB to replace him?

That question was obvious as we ended the 2011 season and should be as or more obvious.

GO Ted Thompson.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

fuck

[pbmax]

Anyone have a thought as to why TT is doing this the week before the draft rather then after the draft?

Its a good question. I would imagine they could have delayed the news for either technically. But if Collins wants to pursue other avenues, then before the draft might be a good thing. Even if its too late to line up meetings and physicals.

It also might be the realization that the news is going to hit regardless. To ignore it just causes a distraction.

[woodbuck27]

I wonder if the team did it before the draft as a favor to Collins? Would the possibility of signing Nick Collins be enough to change a team's draft day strategy, causing a team to NOT pick a safety, thinking they had a potential deal with Collins?

It seems farfetched, I know. But I'm guessing. If the Pack wanted to wait, all they had to do was not tell Collins through his agents that they were planning on releasing him.

But then again, maybe they didn't want to tip their hand when they drafted a safety in the first three rounds or something.

hell, I don't know.

From a Green Bay Packer 'Management' standpoint the timing of this is puzzling. I think Nicks agent took control.This news wouldn't have been exactly the greatest news to Nick's agent.

[woodbuck27]

Not sure it was by design - the news is coming from Nick's agent.

Your calmer today.

Thanks Scott.

[pbmax]

Time to test out the ignore feature, I've heard enough.

[Smidgeon]

fuck

Reminded me of the Morgan Burnett IR indefinitely-nested quote thread. Good times.