The Cullen Jenkins Mistake

[MadtownPacker]

Its nice to be the "fact rat," eh? You can make up any number and folks automatically believe you.

FYI, I issue rat names based on different reasons and some posters do pick their own but in this case I gave that one to Patler because it fits him IMO. So don't be a pendejo with your accusations, por favor.

[LegandofthePack15]

The cap's adjustment in later years did not retroactively solve their problems in 2005. Still waiting for your creative solution.

After the Packers cut Wahle and Sharper, they were about 7.5 M below. 7.5 M is more than enough to resign Wahle and Rivera. Restructure other players' contracts, including Sharper's, to free up more cap space.

Sherman started one off-season with about 3 M and he was able to eventually resign a few of the Packers' core players at market value. If memory serves me right, those players were KGB (coming off double digit sack seasons), Diggs (solid starter) and Clifton (best Pack OL).

Thompson could've retained Wahle, Rivera and Sharper if he wanted too. He CHOSE not too. Reports from the MJS seemed to indicate that Thompson thought guards were replaceable; he thought Sharper was past his prime.

In an alternate universe, Klemm and Whitticker went on to become stars for the Packers; Sharper sucked badly for the Vikings and he ended his career without ever winning a SB.

[LegandofthePack15]

FYI, I issue rat names based on different reasons and some posters do pick their own but in this case I gave that one to Patler because it fits him IMO. So don't be a pendejo with your accusations, por favor.

Ok, boss.

[ThunderDan]

Wahle's new contract was 5 years $25M
Rivera's new contract was 5 years $20M, $9M Signing Bonus
Sharper's new contract was 4 years can't find details

[Patler]

Its nice to be the "fact rat," eh? You can make up any number and folks automatically believe you.

Terminating the contracts of "Sharper, Wahle, Joe Johnson, Hunt, Jamal Reynolds and a bunch of others" (by a bunch of others you mean no names playing for the minimum, right?) did not clear up "29 million of cap space." A small percentage, sure. But not all.

The majority of the Packers' cap surplus came from the new deal with the networks. The year after Wahle, Rivera and Sharper left, the Packers started the league year with a surplus of over $30 M. Thanks to the new TV deal.

Everybody from Daniel Snyder to that cheap ex-Viking owner knew the cap was going to increase sufficiently the moment the new deal was signed. Hello, forecast!

The way contracts are set up with signing bonuses and the such, Thompson could've creatively retained Wahle, Rivera and Sharper. The Packers would be able to absorb their contracts in future years - thanks to TV.

I doubt Bob Harlan told Thompson to be cheap. The excess cap surplus indicated that Thompson inefficiently managed the cap. Worse, at least for a few seasons, Thompson struggled to find capable replacements for the aforementioned players he let go.

The $29 million and $5 million figures are taken directly from what was the then most accurate source of Packer cap information that I knew of. I have printed copies. Be advised, - I make up NOTHING when I post. When I do not have support for facts that I offer, I will precede it with a qualifier, such as; "per my recollection", "as I recall", etc.

In my last reply, I offered you the benefit of the doubt about your completely unsupported statement that Sharper had restructured in previous years, saying that I did not recall it, but perhaps you were correct. You respond to me by accusing me of making things up when I provide the very math that you requested. I will remember your approach, and engage you appropriately in the future, including my reply to your mostly baseless response quoted above, if I decide to bother even trying to have a decent discussion with you.

[sharpe1027]

After the Packers cut Wahle and Sharper, they were about 7.5 M below. 7.5 M is more than enough to resign Wahle and Rivera. Restructure other players' contracts, including Sharper's, to free up more cap space.

Restructure a contract for Sharper when you already stated that you would use the cap money from cutting him for Rivera? Cut Wahle and then expect him to resign with you? I did ask for creative.

Let's get back to Cullen Jenkins. I'm done with this rabbit hole.

[red]

my 2 cents

if we had resigned jenkins, we would have been regretting it about 7 weeks into last season. by the end of last year he was contributing nothing, and nothing again this year.

this is a pretty clear case of a guy cashing in big, the phoning it in

if we had resigned him, we would be sitting here right now talking about how we should have released him before this year, or maybe after this year, so we can free up some cap space to resign someone useful

we dodged a bullet by letting him walk. the jenkins that played for the packers and looked damn good, just doesn't exist anymore

[Freak Out]

Craig Bragg, Will Whittiker, Dave Tollefson, Tyrone Culver, Ingle Martin, Cory Rodgers, Abdul Hodge, David Clowney, Brian Brohm, Jamon Meredith, Caleb Schlauderoth, Ricky Elmore or even Brandon Underwood are overly impressed with his patience.

Brutal....just brutal.

[KYPack]

Hey everybody!

Grab a beer and head over to the campfire.

Some Noob is fucking around with Patler!

[Freak Out]

Was it a mistake to let him go? Yes....he did have a pretty cool sack dance...or strut..whatever you want to call it.

[pittstang5]

my 2 cents

if we had resigned jenkins, we would have been regretting it about 7 weeks into last season. by the end of last year he was contributing nothing, and nothing again this year.

this is a pretty clear case of a guy cashing in big, the phoning it in

if we had resigned him, we would be sitting here right now talking about how we should have released him before this year, or maybe after this year, so we can free up some cap space to resign someone useful

we dodged a bullet by letting him walk. the jenkins that played for the packers and looked damn good, just doesn't exist anymore

If we had resigned Jenkins, he'd probably be injured or on IR like half the current roster.

[Freak Out]

No dance here.

[MadtownPacker]

Fuck Jenkins! We need Andy Reid!!

Got all in that fuckers face! Didnt back down for shit! I love it!

[Lurker64]

Fuck Jenkins! We need Andy Reid!!

Got all in that fuckers face! Didnt back down for shit! I love it!

Well, he'll probably be looking for work after this season. Do we have an opening for an offensive position coach?

[Guiness]

Fuck Jenkins! We need Andy Reid!!

Got all in that fuckers face! Didnt back down for shit! I love it!

Well, he'll probably be looking for work after this season. Do we have an opening for an offensive position coach?

Hey, Sherman's name is being mentioned in around, he's doing a good job with Tanehill in Miami. Think he'd have a shot at the Eagles job? That would be interesting!