a James Jones vs Greg Jennings discussion

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jones has had a pretty damn good year.

what does everyone think his trade value is at this point? he's a decent WR with a cap friendly contract who some team out there might think could be a good #2 or even a solid #1

if they trade jones for a good draft pick, would they then keep jennings?

who would you rather have? jennings, who is a better player, but injury prone and his going to be making some big coin. or jones, who is not as good, but is still a good #2 or 3, and comes dirt cheap allowing us to resign some other guys

getting rid of finley would also clear up room that can be used on jennings, so jennings plus a draft pick might be nice

but all that free cap space by letting fin and jennings go would really be nice

[George Cumby]

jones has had a pretty damn good year.

what does everyone think his trade value is at this point? he's a decent WR with a cap friendly contract who some team out there might think could be a good #2 or even a solid #1

if they trade jones for a good draft pick, would they then keep jennings?

who would you rather have? jennings, who is a better player, but injury prone and his going to be making some big coin. or jones, who is not as good, but is still a good #2 or 3, and comes dirt cheap allowing us to resign some other guys

getting rid of finley would also clear up room that can be used on jennings, so jennings plus a draft pick might be nice

but all that free cap space by letting fin and jennings go would really be nice

I don't think he has much trade value. One good year plus potential isn't going to sell other GM's IMO.

Yes.

Jones, based on availability.

Ditch Jmike, keep the other two. Jennings will come cheaper due to injury history.

Good thread.

[Joemailman]

The big question is how much injuries the past 2 years have hurt Jennings' market value. If they can afford Jennings, I'd go with him. Jones has played really well, but what you've seen this year is probably his ceiling. I think Jennings is still capable of being a Pro Bowl player.

I would like at it from a slightly bigger picture. You have Jennings, Jones, Nelson and Cobb. Two years from now, you'll probably only have 3 of them. Which 3 do you want? I'd want Jennings, Nelson and Cobb, but again, it depends on what it would cost to keep jennin gs.

[LegandofthePack15]

Jennings over Jones any day. Not even close.

Jennings is faster and he's a better route runner. Jennings is a complete receiver whereas Jones is merely a possession receiver.

[George Cumby]

Jennings over Jones any day. Not even close.

Jennings is faster and he's a better route runner. Jennings is a complete receiver whereas Jones is merely a possession receiver.

I totally agree, but based on GJ's injury history, I have significant concers.....

[The Shadow]

You just don't let players like Jennings go. He is an important cog for many reasons. His presence opens up things for other players - like James Jones & Jordy. I thought that little video of Greg trying to cheer up Crosby was instructive - it's important to have that great teammate mentality.
I think his value is underestimated; because the Pack has a lot of weapons, he does not get targeted as much as his talent warrants.
He always reminds me of Reggie Wayne - and if the Pack had to rely on him more his stats would go up.

[King Friday]

Rodgers can make a lot of receivers look good. You do NOT pay huge money to a WR, especially one with an injury history that is relatively extensive. Yeah, Jennings is better than Jones...but it doesn't matter.

[Bossman641]

That Jones guy is pretty good. Let's keep him.

[Smeefers]

Keep em both if you can, but I think Jennings is the odd man out. I want to say Jennings is starting to get old, but he's only 29. He's got another 3 to 4 years left, but I don't think you break the bank on a guy at the end of his career. If he wants to get paid, he'll go somewhere else.

Regardless, I don't think you get rid of Jones. Dude is cheap and productive and he doesn't mind riding the pine. Well, he didn't, maybe that changes after this year, but I think he's earned a lot more looks in the future after the performance he's had this year.

[RashanGary]

I'd go this route:

JJ - 6M/year
JN - 8M/year


That's the same price as Jennings. Keep the two, move Cobb up the list. . . . Put your money to Matthew and Rodgers. We have WR's. We don't have star QB's and star OLB's. Also let Finley go. Put that money at Raji and the OL coming up for contract. Draft a RB and move to a balanced offense.

[rbaloha1]

Agree that Jennings is the more complete receiver.

Opponents double cover GJ majority of the time. JJ is single covered majority of the time.

[mmmdk]

Agree that Jennings is the more complete receiver.

Opponents double cover GJ majority of the time. JJ is single covered majority of the time.

This.
But it's all about the money; so JJ it is and bye, bye GJ.

[Upnorth]

I'd go this route:

JJ - 6M/year
JN - 8M/year


That's the same price as Jennings. Keep the two, move Cobb up the list. . . . Put your money to Matthew and Rodgers. We have WR's. We don't have star QB's and star OLB's. Also let Finley go. Put that money at Raji and the OL coming up for contract. Draft a RB and move to a balanced offense.

I agree with this post emphatically, but would add that Woodsons money will go a long way to keeping the important piece as well.

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how long until we have to pay cobb more money?

ok, i looked it up. he signed a 4 year deal. so probably after next season they're gonna be talking about a new contract and the way he's playing, he's also going to be looking for the same type of money that jennings is gonna get

so keep in mind, IF jennings walks, cobb might also be walking in 2 years. so cobb might not be a long term solution either

so the thought of "well we can let jennings go because we still have jordy, jones and cobb" is only gonna maybe go away soon.

TT has some tough decisions to make

[RashanGary]

Agreen, Redd. 25 yr old Cobb >> 30 year old Jennings. And cheaper. JJ and Nelson very reasonable prices. . . .

Mark Murphy said they have a lot of big contracts coming up and not enough money for all of them. Said we're going to have to let some of them go. Some of the big contract guys. Not garbage guys. We're going to lose playmaker(s.) Which ones?

Whether it's Jennings or Raji. . . . Finley or Cobb. . . . . Down the line. We're going to lose some of our great players. It's just a fact.


TT is going to have to keep drafting. We can't keep everyone. We need new great players (like Cobb, Bulaga, House, Hayward. . . .) All guys who show early signs of being excellent players. There are many others in the last couple years who can still pan out to be great. AR wasn't great on day 1. Sitton wasn't. Raji either. TT just has to keep getting players and the coaches have to keep developing them the way they have.