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Well, GB needs to get something out of its running game. Jackson would really help, but I wouldn't be surprised if they go with the guys they have plus either Benson or a mid-round pick. IMO a well coached team should be able to make chicken salad out of what they have. They Giants used to trot out Ahmed Bradshaw (a R7 pick) and Brandon Jacobs (a R4 pick). I can't think of many RB's that, if I were GM (cringe), I'd pay over $5M/yr for. Jackson certainly isn't in that group.
I appreciate JH's opinion, but I respectfully disagree. I think their best bet is to use their cap space on Rodgers and Matthews (not sure about Raji) and draft some players who can play and stay healthy.
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Look, this is an internet forum, and as such everything that happens is either the best thing that's ever happened or the worst thing that's ever happened. Players who were good 7 years ago are still just as good today, or are complete trash.Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View PostI'm not going to lose sleep if we are unable to sign a soon-to-be 30 year old RB. Would I like him to be a Packer? Yes. Is he essential to the success of this team? No.
I'm going to need you to get on board with this lest the entire place starts getting rational.Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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Sign Merriman!! He will save the defense. Six years ago he was a beast, sure he was juicing then but he's still got it.Originally posted by Zool View PostLook, this is an internet forum, and as such everything that happens is either the best thing that's ever happened or the worst thing that's ever happened. Players who were good 7 years ago are still just as good today, or are complete trash.
I'm going to need you to get on board with this lest the entire place starts getting rational.Go PACK
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No kidding.Originally posted by Zool View PostLook, this is an internet forum, and as such everything that happens is either the best thing that's ever happened or the worst thing that's ever happened. Players who were good 7 years ago are still just as good today, or are complete trash.
I'm going to need you to get on board with this lest the entire place starts getting rational.
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I don't believe that TT will pay over $5 Million$ for Steven Jackson or he'd be signed by now.Originally posted by run pMc View PostWell, GB needs to get something out of its running game. Jackson would really help, but I wouldn't be surprised if they go with the guys they have plus either Benson or a mid-round pick. IMO a well coached team should be able to make chicken salad out of what they have. They Giants used to trot out Ahmed Bradshaw (a R7 pick) and Brandon Jacobs (a R4 pick). I can't think of many RB's that, if I were GM (cringe), I'd pay over $5M/yr for. Jackson certainly isn't in that group.
I appreciate JH's opinion, but I respectfully disagree. I think their best bet is to use their cap space on Rodgers and Matthews (not sure about Raji) and draft some players who can play and stay healthy.
I'm curious about how we feel as a forum on a possible extention to BJ Raji. We'll likely agree on the value to the team for Aaron Rodgers and Clay Matthews; but where does this forum stand on BJ Raji?
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I agree about Jackson. I think he would be a real good addition to the team, but I don't think they are considering anything close to $5 M, and if that is what it would take to get him, I won't be disappointed that he isn't signed.Originally posted by woodbuck27 View PostI don't believe that TT will pay over $5 Million$ for Steven Jackson or he's be signed by now.
I'm curious about how we feel as a forum on a possible extention to BJ Raji. We'll likely agree on the value to the team for Aaron Rodgers and Clay Matthews; but where does this forum stand on BJ Raji?
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But, then I ask myself, "Who would help more in 2013, Jackson or Finley?" I can convince myself that it is Jackson. Paying Jackson $5M would bother me less than paying Finley $8+M. If cutting Finley could allow them to sign both Jackson and Jennings, I would be all for it.
As for Raji....He isn't the stud I hoped for, mostly because he doesn't have the consistency I would like to see. I don't think they will be able to pay him as much as someone else will be willing to, and he might actually be a better fit somewhere else. I suspect he will be one of those good young players that they would like to keep, but it won't be in the cards to do so.
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I keep coming back to this idea and I like it quite a bit. Signing Jackson is as much about improving pass pro as it is about getting a top-tier (even if possibly declining) running back.Originally posted by pbmax View PostI think M3 has come to the conclusion that he can't keep Rodgers healthy and upright like 2011 with an O line in transition and largely ignoring the run game. By that I mean currently unsettled LT, Center to a smaller degree and injuries to LG and RT. All the answers might be on the roster or they may need to be drafted. If Sherrod and Bulaga were healthy, I am not sure they aren't looking more to Finley and Jennings rather than one of those and Jackson.
So if you are M3 and T2 and you think you need a year, two, maybe three to finalize the O line, then Jackson makes more sense short term.
I don't think its the only reason, Wilde has covered how the front office has coveted this guy for a while. But that might explain why NOW its worth waiting.
Plus the fact that this is actually helping in the Jennings and Finley negotiations. Usually, time is their enemy as their offers get surpassed.
Part of me wonders if Rodgers is involved in the negotiations, just in terms of what he might be willing to do in his upcoming contract to accommodate signing Jackson.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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I think signing Jackson also would help the mentality of the offense. It would show more than just the lip service that a running game has importance here that MM gives. Yes I know we run the ball but we all know there's no teeth to that attack and the opposing defenses know that too. SJ gives it that teeth.
Perhaps the OL starts blocking a bit better knowing they have a very good (albeit aged) RB behind them and they can take a bit more pride and effort into run blocking.
Just a thought.All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!
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I keep going back and forth on Jackson.
I feel like we could load up on receiving options and try to make it rain again like in 2011 but I'd rather address the bottleneck at RB and get an offense that is 85% as effective for 75% of the price tag. You know, account for diminishing returns and shit.
I also think Jackson is kind of in a spot like Woodson--someone needs to tell him to fuck himself and take 3M.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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I totally agree with your thoughts.Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View PostI think signing Jackson also would help the mentality of the offense. It would show more than just the lip service that a running game has importance here that MM gives. Yes I know we run the ball but we all know there's no teeth to that attack and the opposing defenses know that too. SJ gives it that teeth.
Perhaps the OL starts blocking a bit better knowing they have a very good (albeit aged) RB behind them and they can take a bit more pride and effort into run blocking.
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signing Benson didn't. A guy who just came off 3 straight 1000 yard seasons..some of which were on bad teams.Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View PostI think signing Jackson also would help the mentality of the offense. It would show more than just the lip service that a running game has importance here that MM gives. Yes I know we run the ball but we all know there's no teeth to that attack and the opposing defenses know that too. SJ gives it that teeth.
Perhaps the OL starts blocking a bit better knowing they have a very good (albeit aged) RB behind them and they can take a bit more pride and effort into run blocking.
Just a thought.
The offense would have been better off going after a Reggie Bush who is a good pass catcher out of the backfield. That's the type of backs they need to be looking for in this system. Not Jackson.
They don't need a 3 down back, but they need to find a short yardage guy who can pick up a 3rd and 1. That's what they are missing. I saw enough of Harris to like how he runs in this offense. 1 cut and go. They need to find a bruiser now.
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I'b be surprized if TT signed Stephen Jackson for that low a figure. I'm thinking that about $4 - 4.5 million$ might do it.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostI keep going back and forth on Jackson.
I feel like we could load up on receiving options and try to make it rain again like in 2011 but I'd rather address the bottleneck at RB and get an offense that is 85% as effective for 75% of the price tag. You know, account for diminishing returns and shit.
I also think Jackson is kind of in a spot like Woodson--someone needs to tell him to fuck himself and take 3M.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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