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I'd be quite happy with those 2 plus a safety.Originally posted by Old School View PostI think if Margus Hunt has the right kind of nonstop motor to go with those physical skills he's worth a shot. Could have an unlimited cieling.
A J Klein seems like a blue collar high effort player that can have some real value.
I think we need to draft a safety, but I have mixed emotions as to which one in particular.Who Knows? The Shadow knows!
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Originally posted by Fritz View PostI wonder who will fall. The linebacker from Georgia, maybe, the one with the health/neck issue?
LB for Georgia....incredible talent...questionable person
Now there is a guy you know Bretsky will like
He might not quite be as talented as Odell Smash Mouth Thurman though !!!TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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i think you two are talking about two different Georga Lb'ersOriginally posted by Bretsky View PostLB for Georgia....incredible talent...questionable person
Now there is a guy you know Bretsky will like
He might not quite be as talented as Odell Smash Mouth Thurman though !!!
i'm pretty sure he's talking about jarvis jones, the big time prospect with neck issues and suspect workout numbers
i think you're talking about alec ogletree, the bigtime prospect with many multiple off field issues
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My thinking.Originally posted by red View Posti think you two are talking about two different Georga Lb'ers
i'm pretty sure he's talking about jarvis jones, the big time prospect with neck issues and suspect workout numbers
i think you're talking about alec ogletree, the bigtime prospect with many multiple off field issues
Can we clean this up by not wanting either one of them? I'm just about to get started on my picks for this draft. I'll be retreating to my cave to get that done.
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I probably could have put a half-dozen disclaimers on this -- it's not my dream draft, I'm not a college football or draft guru, etc. I was throwing out one possible way the draft could fall for GB. My dream draft would look different, and I'm sure there will be one or two headscratchers from TT's work.If TT doesn't trade up or down (a 'big if' IMO) I could see the draft falling like this:
R1 - Jesse Williams DT
R2 - Robert Woods, Q.Patton, or M.Wheaton WR
R3 - Gavin Escobar TE
R4 - Chase Thomas OLB
R5 - Tony Jefferson S
R5 - Kwame Geathers DE
R6 - Jeff Baca OL (listed as G, but has played some C & T)
R7 - Kyle Juszczyk FB
Finally someone has stepped up with a real effort at a pick by pick sample draft. I believe this is the first I've seen here this off season. CONGRATULATIONS.
Now I'll take a look at your effort/thinking.
I look forward to the results of your work.Can we clean this up by not wanting either one of them? I'm just about to get started on my picks for this draft. I'll be retreating to my cave to get that done.
As for Jones and Ogletree, I like them, but they are such risky picks (medical, character) in R1 that I'd be inclined to look elsewhere. I think they are too talented to fall all the way to 55 in R2. Let's say GB has a chance to trade up to pick 40 and one or both are available. Would you pull the trigger if you were GM?
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Hi run pMc:Originally posted by run pMc View PostI probably could have put a half-dozen disclaimers on this -- it's not my dream draft, I'm not a college football or draft guru, etc. I was throwing out one possible way the draft could fall for GB. My dream draft would look different, and I'm sure there will be one or two headscratchers from TT's work.
I look forward to the results of your work.
As for Jones and Ogletree, I like them, but they are such risky picks (medical, character) in R1 that I'd be inclined to look elsewhere. I think they are too talented to fall all the way to 55 in R2. Let's say GB has a chance to trade up to pick 40 and one or both are available. Would you pull the trigger if you were GM?
"I probably could have put a half-dozen disclaimers on this" run pMc
" I look forward to the results of your work." run pMc
Hey run pMc... you invested alot of time getting that done. Some of us have done the same in other off seasons. It's an interesting exercise. Of course, you leave yourself wide open to critique. Covering you ass with a disclaimer is too cool Packer fan. In reality, compared to what Ted Thompson will do. I'm positive that we'll all be wrong. The thing is ...you did it which is commendable.
I got started yesterday and it got down to looking at all our needs. Where does filling them start in terms of a primary/priority focus and round by round picks?
We read that it begins and ends in terms of investing that first round pick on the DL or OL. There's proof available that contradicts this premise. I believe the smart person drafts best picking the best player available and ignores need. That certainly works for Ted Thompson and the Green Bay Packers in this draft. It fits his general philosophy as well.
Twenty of our members might do what you did. None of us get close to what Ted Thompson will pick for our Rookie Crop. Ted Thompson has his Draft Board set and ready; except for some possible minor tweeking... it's done. All that's left now and and certainly begins with April's Fools Day; is the lieing and deceit. Politely, the simple diversions from the truth. We'll read tons of that over the course of the next three weeks on behalf of many NFL teams. We've arrived at 'don't believe anything' time.
So you did your thing. As I find the time I'll try do mine. We do that so that others will invest their time to legitimately critique us. It's an exercise in expansion and growth for this board in terms of general Green Bay Packer and overall NFL knowledge. To help make Packerrats 'the best' NFL team fan board.
I post here for one primary reason. To help Packerrats grow. To grow myself as a Green Bay Packer and NFL fan. It can become infectious and as a primary focus for me ... enjoyable.
"As for Jones and Ogletree, I like them, but they are such risky picks (medical, character) in R1 that I'd be inclined to look elsewhere. I think they are too talented to fall all the way to 55 in R2. Let's say GB has a chance to trade up to pick 40 and one or both are available. Would you pull the trigger if you were GM?" run pMc
OLB Jarvis Jones and ILB Alec Ogletree both fr. Georgia. These fellas grade out in the group 15-30best prospects. Personally regarding both it's a ..... 'so what'.
It's all a crap shoot. All the same ... as a primary focus. I'd look for the proper attitude/intelligence and skill set level as a fit for my Big Board. I'd ensure that a prospect would sincerely enjoy playing for the Green Bay Packers.
Jarvis Jones and Alec Ogletree?
I'll let some other NFL teams commit to both of them. I'd choose safer options as my best prospects in round 1.
GO PACK GO !** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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I'd be surprised of Jarvis Jones was even on Ted Thompson's board. Seems like we are one of the very most conservative teams when it comes to player injuries and his is probably a deal breaker.Originally posted by woodbuck27 View PostHi run pMc:
"I probably could have put a half-dozen disclaimers on this" run pMc
" I look forward to the results of your work." run pMc
Hey run pMc... you invested alot of time getting that done. Some of us have done the same in other off seasons. It's an interesting exercise. Of course, you leave yourself wide open to critique. Covering you ass with a disclaimer is too cool Packer fan. In reality, compared to what Ted Thompson will do. I'm positive that we'll all be wrong. The thing is ...you did it which is commendable.
I got started yesterday and it got down to looking at all our needs. Where does filling them start in terms of a primary/priority focus and round by round picks?
We read that it begins and ends in terms of investing that first round pick on the DL or OL. There's proof available that contradicts this premise. I believe the smart person drafts best picking the best player available and ignores need. That certainly works for Ted Thompson and the Green Bay Packers in this draft. It fits his general philosophy as well.
Twenty of our members might do what you did. None of us get close to what Ted Thompson will pick for our Rookie Crop. Ted Thompson has his Draft Board set and ready; except for some possible minor tweeking... it's done. All that's left now and and certainly begins with April's Fools Day; is the lieing and deceit. Politely, the simple diversions from the truth. We'll read tons of that over the course of the next three weeks on behalf of many NFL teams. We've arrived at 'don't believe anything' time.
So you did your thing. As I find the time I'll try do mine. We do that so that others will invest their time to legitimately critique us. It's an exercise in expansion and growth for this board in terms of general Green Bay Packer and overall NFL knowledge. To help make Packerrats 'the best' NFL team fan board.
I post here for one primary reason. To help Packerrats grow. To grow myself as a Green Bay Packer and NFL fan. It can become infectious and as a primary focus for me ... enjoyable.
"As for Jones and Ogletree, I like them, but they are such risky picks (medical, character) in R1 that I'd be inclined to look elsewhere. I think they are too talented to fall all the way to 55 in R2. Let's say GB has a chance to trade up to pick 40 and one or both are available. Would you pull the trigger if you were GM?" run pMc
OLB Jarvis Jones and ILB Alec Ogletree both fr. Georgia. These fellas grade out in the group 15-30best prospects. Personally regarding both it's a ..... 'so what'.
It's all a crap shoot. All the same ... as a primary focus. I'd look for the proper attitude/intelligence and skill set level as a fit for my Big Board. I'd ensure that a prospect would sincerely enjoy playing for the Green Bay Packers.
Jarvis Jones and Alec Ogletree?
I'll let some other NFL teams commit to both of them. I'd choose safer options as my best prospects in round 1.
GO PACK GO !70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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Great idea! Maybe like that one in Detroit - he's signed a bunch of free agents!....or Chicago....or Minnesota....or Miami....or Buffalo...or New England, where they haven't won a Super Bowl in what, almost ten years? Or like that guy in Washington. He signs tons of free agents almost every year! Or wait, maybe that guy in Dallas. Or the one in Atlanta. They seem great every year and they've won...er, okay. But how about the New Orleans GM? He's great, they won a SB in '09. No, wait, that GM in San Francisco was awesome, he's won....how many has he won, that GM? No, wait, I got it. Ozzie Newsome. He wins one once every thirteen or so years, right?Originally posted by Rutnstrut View PostHow about a GM?
Dumbass."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Were you eating rich chocolat?Originally posted by Fritz View PostGreat idea! Maybe like that one in Detroit - he's signed a bunch of free agents!....or Chicago....or Minnesota....or Miami....or Buffalo...or New England, where they haven't won a Super Bowl in what, almost ten years? Or like that guy in Washington. He signs tons of free agents almost every year! Or wait, maybe that guy in Dallas. Or the one in Atlanta. They seem great every year and they've won...er, okay. But how about the New Orleans GM? He's great, they won a SB in '09. No, wait, that GM in San Francisco was awesome, he's won....how many has he won, that GM? No, wait, I got it. Ozzie Newsome. He wins one once every thirteen or so years, right?
Dumbass.
Last edited by woodbuck27; 04-02-2013, 10:33 PM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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I'll drop this here:Originally posted by Fritz View PostI wonder who will fall. The linebacker from Georgia, maybe, the one with the health/neck issue?
Does Jarvis Jones lack the speed to be elite in NFL?
By Dan Hanzus ... Around the League Writer
Published: April 2, 2013 at 09:26 p.m. Updated: April 2, 2013 at 10:26 p.m
Comment woodbuck27:
This isn't going to help Jarvis Jones Draft stock:
" Going to drop Jarvis Jones out of first round. Not sure he's a first-round talent. #NFLDraft.
- Gil Brandt (@Gil_Brandt) " April 2, 2013** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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I keep coming back to the same guys... by way of where these guys are generally ranked, I would love to see a draft that could come away with these guys in the first few rounds.
1. Margus Hunt (think he'll be gone by 26)
2. Trade down
3. Brian Schwenke (C)
3. Brandon Williams (DT/DE)
4. Kiko Alonso (ILB)
I like Alonso a lot... assuming he can put on another 15 lbs, he has the movement skills and athleticism to be an impact player. Williams is a big, strong DE/DT who can eat up snaps and eat up blocks. Schwenke has some size, an NFL body, and can give as good as he gets in the trenches.
I'd like to see us get bigger and tougher in the trenches; and bigger and more athletic at ILB... just as soon cut bait with Hawk.wist
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