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We released him...no compensationOriginally posted by Pugger View PostI suppose Charles would be a good influence in that locker room and that might be the reason why Reggie is bringing him in. If he signs and plays well for somebody in 2013 do we get any compensation? I can't remember...TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I'm not convinced he is a good influence. Now I love chuck and his game, but its not for others to emulate. I recall his first season MM was cheesed off because chuck didn't want to do offseason stuff in GB. Granted he always is in shape and is a pro's pro, but example?? I don't buy it unless he has changed since then.Originally posted by Pugger View PostI suppose Charles would be a good influence in that locker room and that might be the reason why Reggie is bringing him in. If he signs and plays well for somebody in 2013 do we get any compensation? I can't remember...
He and Al Harris even made a deal with MM that ONE of them would be available at all OTA's, but virtually never both (unless it was mandatory). Both guys are examples of how to be a pro, but neither one was a real positive influence on the young guys from a "be around the team and work with your coaches" standpoint.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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That was the first public concession he made. He later would turn up for more offseason stuff and McCarthy would return the favor and hold him out of work at times.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostI'm not convinced he is a good influence. Now I love chuck and his game, but its not for others to emulate. I recall his first season MM was cheesed off because chuck didn't want to do offseason stuff in GB. Granted he always is in shape and is a pro's pro, but example?? I don't buy it unless he has changed since then.
He and Al Harris even made a deal with MM that ONE of them would be available at all OTA's, but virtually never both (unless it was mandatory). Both guys are examples of how to be a pro, but neither one was a real positive influence on the young guys from a "be around the team and work with your coaches" standpoint.
At this point, at least with M3, he is probably no more difficult than most vets, plus you get good film study and responsible offseasons.
I would be more concerned with the risk taking on the field as an example for the rest.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I read this in a Vic Ketchman article. He quoted some dude who said "player's play, coaches coach." You don't want a player to be a role model/teacher because it takes away from competition. It can lead to intimidation, the younger guy not wanting to show up the crafty veteran who's taken him under his wing. It's a young man's game, you want young talent to push veterans until they can't justify playing the old experienced guy over the young guy. That's why Woodson is out of green bay, we have three corners that are as good or better than him.
I pretty much agree with that line of thought.
If Oakland doesn't have a guy that's better than him, they should pick him up because he's a better player, not because he can lead a locker room.- Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.
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The risk taking was on my mind when I started the post, but I got carried away with the rest. Also, I think the work ethic and being is shape is leading by example...I'm just not sure thats enough in todays NFL.Originally posted by pbmax View PostThat was the first public concession he made. He later would turn up for more offseason stuff and McCarthy would return the favor and hold him out of work at times.
At this point, at least with M3, he is probably no more difficult than most vets, plus you get good film study and responsible offseasons.
I would be more concerned with the risk taking on the field as an example for the rest.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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CW was moved to safety and is not in GB due to age, contract and not buying into Capers. IMO the best tackler in the secondary and the best secondary player against the run.Originally posted by Smeefers View PostI read this in a Vic Ketchman article. He quoted some dude who said "player's play, coaches coach." You don't want a player to be a role model/teacher because it takes away from competition. It can lead to intimidation, the younger guy not wanting to show up the crafty veteran who's taken him under his wing. It's a young man's game, you want young talent to push veterans until they can't justify playing the old experienced guy over the young guy. That's why Woodson is out of green bay, we have three corners that are as good or better than him.
I pretty much agree with that line of thought.
If Oakland doesn't have a guy that's better than him, they should pick him up because he's a better player, not because he can lead a locker room.
A good role model off the field with game prep but a bad role model during the game. Some of CW's "gambling" was due to secondary breakdowns/miscommunications.
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And loss of speed. He is still a good tackler and plays the run great but he got grabby when trying to cover guys. I know you like to bring up the SF game but he was penalized a lot in other games.Originally posted by rbaloha1 View PostCW was moved to safety and is not in GB due to age, contract and not buying into Capers. IMO the best tackler in the secondary and the best secondary player against the run.
A good role model off the field with game prep but a bad role model during the game. Some of CW's "gambling" was due to secondary breakdowns/miscommunications.
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CW and Al Harris were masters of this stuff for years. CW's loss of speed caused him to be more grabby and was flagged for more penalties.Originally posted by Pugger View PostAnd loss of speed. He is still a good tackler and plays the run great but he got grabby when trying to cover guys. I know you like to bring up the SF game but he was penalized a lot in other games.
SF game is relevant since it is the most recent body of work.
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Wow ... what a story Mad. Trying to **identify the young lady, 'real or not' in rbaloha1 avatar.Originally posted by MadtownPacker View PostIs that who is on your avatar?
Is to invite yourself into the complicated life of Manti Te'o. His 'love life story' possibly more complicated than trying to uncover the TRUTH in the Brett Favre and Green Bay Packers divorce. When I looked at the Manti Te'o story, I found it difficult to get my head twisted around it.
Not sure if I got this correct?
I discovered that ( possibly !? ) someone named ***Diane O'Meara; her photo is the image of 'the imaginary Manti Te'o online girlfriend'... named Lennay Kekua.
The same 'ficticious' Lennay Kekua, who alledgedly according to Te'o. Had been diagnosed with Leukemia. While fighting this disease was tragically/fatally killed in a car accident. That loss/grief of 'a loving relationship with her' (Lennay Kekua); further complicating the life of Manti Te'o.
A grief compounded for Manti Te'o, as in that same timeframe, Te'o was also grieving the death of his grandmother.
*** Images of a real person named .... Diane O'mera:
Moses, Jenkins and Aaron. Who could make this stuff up!?
Diane O'Meara, 23, pictured, was unknowingly used as the face of Lennay Kekua for months as Notre Dame football star Manti Te'o told and re-told the story about how he excelled on the field despite the personal tragedy of Kekua's death.
Manti Te'o (not a Bear, not a Viking) but rather of the San Diego Chargers.
I was hoping he's be in the NFCN but not as a Green Bay Packer. We already have too much drama with Jermichael Finley.Last edited by woodbuck27; 05-19-2013, 10:28 AM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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This. CW lost his top gear. He was always physical but the last couple years he was MUGGING guys out there and, IMO, getting away with more than a couple. His leadership will be missed but as Ketchman said (quoting Joe Greene), the team needs Young Lions.Originally posted by Pugger View PostAnd loss of speed. He is still a good tackler and plays the run great but he got grabby when trying to cover guys. I know you like to bring up the SF game but he was penalized a lot in other games.
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Cleft... even you can handle her.Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View PostShe is certainly too young - and too insubstantial - for Cleft Crusty. Note that my heart probably cannot survive extended periods above 50bpm.

All you need is a powerful urge to fantasize.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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Since the idea that Charles Woodson might return to the Raiders was first introduced, the excitement has been growing. Now the movement to woo him to come back has become organized.
Groundswell of support building for Charles Woodson return to Oakland
By Levi Damien ... May 18 2013, 11:39 AM
Since the idea that Charles Woodson might return to the Raiders was first introduced, the excitement has been growing. Now the movement to woo him to come back has become organized.
" Twitter was abuzz with a groundswell of Raider fans preparing to converge on Raiders headquarters on Tuesday in a massive show of support they hope will be impossible for Woodson to deny.
The initial event was scheduled for 2pm but many have discussed noon as when they would arrive. If this event turns out anything near the level of buzz created on Twitter, it should be something to behold." Fr. LINK above** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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SMH. The Raider Nation is approaching the threshold of patheticism.Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Posthttp://www.silverandblackpride.com/2...akland-raiders
Groundswell of support building for Charles Woodson return to Oakland
By Levi Damien ... May 18 2013, 11:39 AM
Since the idea that Charles Woodson might return to the Raiders was first introduced, the excitement has been growing. Now the movement to woo him to come back has become organized.
" Twitter was abuzz with a groundswell of Raider fans preparing to converge on Raiders headquarters on Tuesday in a massive show of support they hope will be impossible for Woodson to deny.
The initial event was scheduled for 2pm but many have discussed noon as when they would arrive. If this event turns out anything near the level of buzz created on Twitter, it should be something to behold." Fr. LINK above
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