Packers To Part Ways With Bishop?

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it just seems odd

it seemed odd during the draft when word came out that they were trying to trade him, and its still odd now

IMO bishop is much better than jones, i just do not have a lot of faith in brad jones ability to be a starting ILB in the NFL

the one ace in the hole could be Manning, like others have said. everything i have read about the guy before and after the draft last year, makes me think that he could have all the tools to been a very good player

i'm also seeing the trend of dumping any player who has had any kind of injury over the last couple of years. sure we need a healthier team, but zero tolerance seems a little extreme

[Fritz]

it just seems odd

it seemed odd during the draft when word came out that they were trying to trade him, and its still odd now

IMO bishop is much better than jones, i just do not have a lot of faith in brad jones ability to be a starting ILB in the NFL

the one ace in the hole could be Manning, like others have said. everything i have read about the guy before and after the draft last year, makes me think that he could have all the tools to been a very good player

i'm also seeing the trend of dumping any player who has had any kind of injury over the last couple of years. sure we need a healthier team, but zero tolerance seems a little extreme

Broke the law= okay

Broke the body= not okay

[3irty1]

Bishop was definitely a playmaker but didn't have a step to lose.

I think Jones gets sold short on here. He'll earn that contract on 3rd downs this year.

[rbaloha1]

That would be fantastic diagnosis if the problem had been the running back on the option. And again, its not a dive.

Bishop was an ILB with Pickett on the LOS and contributed to a terrible run defense in 2011. He isn't a savior. Whatever he does well, its not enough on its own to be a difference maker.

His turnovers (FF) and sacks will be missed more than run D.

Dude it is a dive you dingbat.

Have you ever been in violent collisions attempting to stop teh dive, qb and pitchman? You are just an old washed up prune pretending to know football with continual b.s.

[pbmax]

Dude it is a dive you dingbat.

Have you ever been in violent collisions attempting to stop teh dive, qb and pitchman? You are just an old washed up prune pretending to know football with continual b.s.

Washed up perhaps. But still sharp enough to know a dive has no lead blocker and that there is no pitchman in the 49ers read option of last year. Interestingly, several college read option teams have developed a pitch for a true triple option, but it wasn't called by the 49ers. Nor any other pro team I saw.

I guess its your info, from you old wishbone and triple option days, that is dated in 2013.

[woodbuck27]

It the Packers want to get bigger, why would they draft smaller players and hope they get bigger?

Finley got bigger, Pickett got smaller. I'm not seeing a trend.

I think it is fairly obvious to most people that McGinn was completely wrong in his 'inside information' on the direction the Packers were taking. To me its not a big deal, what killed his credibility is his post draft assertion that the Packers traded back trying to not draft Lacy but were eventually forced into taking him. I mean really.


As far as cutting ties with Bishop, I am shocked. We do not have all the info, and here are the possibilities:

1. His injury is going to reduce his ability to play in the Packer's view
2. They like Jones more than many posters do. Personally, I was very impressed with him as a rookie and thought we had a hidden gem. I have cooled on him in subsequent season, not seeing much improvement. But know this - he has the tools to be a very good player.
3. Another player on the roster is expected to emerge. Packers want to get as many reps in for the young pup to get him ready to be an impact player. My bet here would be Terrell Manning who has greatly impressed me. Having a stomach virus that makes you sick as a dog, playing through it, losing 15 lbs, and still playing okay, makes me think if he is healthy he can be impactful.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/desmond-bishop-could-be-released-b9932140z1-211148221.html

The answer to this is in this article.

It looks to me as if Desmond Bishop is simply on the wrong side of the numbers / $numbers$ game. Too many players available to play 2 ILBer positions. The salary he's due is getting restrictive Vs the risk and his past injury. Unless Bishop takes a pay cut, we might very well see him lining up against us on 'D' with the team that Greg Jennings hopes to play for. That in both cases conditional on their health.

Will any team accept a trade at this stage in the game? Won't a team like the Minnesota Vikings with need in the middle at LB; simply watch for Desmond Bishop's possible release; and if really interested in his skills?

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[3irty1]

I'd guess that even if Bishop were cut his chances are slim of being a Viking as long as they're still running Fraiser's defense. Probably no system that would highlight his weaknesses more than a tampa-2 heavy scheme.

[rbaloha1]

Washed up perhaps. But still sharp enough to know a dive has no lead blocker and that there is no pitchman in the 49ers read option of last year. Interestingly, several college read option teams have developed a pitch for a true triple option, but it wasn't called by the 49ers. Nor any other pro team I saw.

I guess its your info, from you old wishbone and triple option days, that is dated in 2013.

Moron -- the dive is the rb hitting the a gaps. You get so caught-up in phraseology to deflect your lack of knowledge.

Dude -- give me your paypal account info for your payout

[rbaloha1]

I'd guess that even if Bishop were cut his chances are slim of being a Viking as long as they're still running Fraiser's defense. Probably no system that would highlight his weaknesses more than a tampa-2 heavy scheme.

IMO Db can play in any system. Pass coverage skills improved.

[cheesner]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...211148221.html

The answer to this is in this article.

No, there were no answers in the article. From the article:

How much of this decision is based on salary, how much on overcrowding and how much on the injury is up for interpretation.

[woodbuck27]

No, there were no answers in the article. From the article:

I meant it's up to interpretation based on what the article reveals to us. What else, as Packer fans, are we often left with? If you get all the specifics on this now more obvious impending move. To see Ted Thompson actually trade or outright release Desmond Bishop.

Please enlighten us.

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[run pMc]

Not sold on Brad Jones, but in his second year at ILB I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I like Bishop and the attitude he brings to the defense. Maybe they saw something in the OTA's they liked from one of the backups/rookies, but I have to think this is a salary issue, and likely a domino that needs to fall to sign any of: James Jones, Raji, Shields, or Burnett. I also think that for a guy who wasn't great (albeit improving) in coverage, tearing a hamstring won't do you any favors.

Will be sad when they release him. I doubt anyone will trade for him unless there's a bad camp injury.

[woodbuck27]

Comment woodbuck27:

I'll add this video here.

My interpretation is that Desmond Bishop's $3.464 Million$ salary (due); is a huge factor in this news of him very possibly not any longer being a Green Bay Packer. TT isn't going to pay a very possible back-up that kind of money. That coupled with the possibility he won't accept a pay cut, will very likely spell his release.

I can't see this man lasting long on the market as a FA. That is if or when TT releases him. He and his agent simply have to convince some NFL team that he can still make an impact. The fact that he's 'only' 28 years old will be a factor in his favor.

Somehow I hope that Desmond Bishop can change this news. That he will do what's necessary to remain a Green Bay Packer. That the Packers and he concede to one another.

http://www.packersnews.com/article/20130613/PKR01/306130305/Video-Wes-Pete-Bishop-s-situation-offseason-work-Coleman?odyssey=mod|lateststories

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[pbmax]

Moron -- the dive is the rb hitting the a gaps. You get so caught-up in phraseology to deflect your lack of knowledge.

Dude -- give me your paypal account info for your payout

Wrong again. No offense runs a play to an 'A' gap. That's a defense's term for space around the center. And that is not the definition of a dive, though it might be the most common target.

All but one of the 49er read options plays were Gore over the tackle. The other was run right to Raji when he was a 3 tech. Whether it was guard-center gap or guard-tackle was hard to tell from the sideline camera.

They didn't run a dive that hurt the Packers.

No Pay Pal info until you prove you are a Nigerian Prince.

[woodbuck27]

Wrong again. No offense runs a play to an 'A' gap. That's a defense's term for space around the center. And that is not the definition of a dive, though it might be the most common target.

All but one of the 49er read options plays were Gore over the tackle. The other was run right to Raji when he was a 3 tech. Whether it was guard-center gap or guard-tackle was hard to tell from the sideline camera.

They didn't run a dive that hurt the Packers.

No Pay Pal info until you prove you are a Nigerian Prince.

pb....your going to have to get used to the no ... 'repost reflex'.

It'll take you some time to get over 'the twitch'. A few nights of eight hours rest should help. After that see your personal doctor.