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Wilde talked to Bishop and he said he is visiting the Vikings tomorrow, but you probably guessed that already
Also, Bishop said he was being traded or released. Not talk of contract renegotiation.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Not until tomorrow? He's no Darren Sharper.Originally posted by pbmax View PostWilde talked to Bishop and he said he is visiting the Vikings tomorrow, but you probably guessed that already
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With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/211852741.html Looks like he took the high road in his comments about being released. Whether that was him making a good PR move not to look bitter when hitting the open market or his natural personality, it's a smart move to not bash the Packers decision. Again, he saw the writing on the wall as he said. Why would you give starter money to Jones and then make him a backup? Why would you bring Bishop back making starter money and make him a backup. I wish Desmond well. He was a productive player before his injury. I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign with the Vikes, assuming he passes a physical. During the draft, they talked about them needing to draft an ILB. I'd be in favor of him testing the market and coming back if the compensation is not to his liking. I hope the Packers would consider having him back."Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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Our ILB's are such a mess... can't begin to imagine what TT is thinking by giving big $$ to Jones and Hawk. Although it's perfectly in keeping with his requirement that ILB's be as pedestrian as possible.
Hawk and Jones combined for how many "impact plays"?? Zero - sign those guys up!!!
Absolutely headscratching stuff.wist
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Twitter disagreement:
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#Packers wanted Bishop to take major pay cut few months ago - by about 2/3.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Hard to make an impact from sideline. Bishop tweaked his hamstring muscle while rehabbing his surgically repaired tendon. That is why he couldn't go at OTAs. I think Jones will be able to rush QB from inside, not sure about forced fumbles. Bishop had 5 of each last full season I believe. But let's not forget, Bishop was part and parcel of the worst Packer defense in, what, 20, 30 years? He's a part and not irreplaceable.Originally posted by wist43 View PostOur ILB's are such a mess... can't begin to imagine what TT is thinking by giving big $$ to Jones and Hawk. Although it's perfectly in keeping with his requirement that ILB's be as pedestrian as possible.
Hawk and Jones combined for how many "impact plays"?? Zero - sign those guys up!!!
Absolutely headscratching stuff.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I don't necessarily have a problem with releasing Bishop; but overpaying Jones, not drafting any ILB'er help, not signing (of course) any ILB'er help, and releasing Bishop... all of that combined is just mind-numbing.Originally posted by pbmax View PostHard to make an impact from sideline. Bishop tweaked his hamstring muscle while rehabbing his surgically repaired tendon. That is why he couldn't go at OTAs. I think Jones will be able to rush QB from inside, not sure about forced fumbles. Bishop had 5 of each last full season I believe. But let's not forget, Bishop was part and parcel of the worst Packer defense in, what, 20, 30 years? He's a part and not irreplaceable.
I see ILB as a completely dead position for us, and wanted to address it in one way or another - and wouldn't have even minded going small, ala Arthur Brown. The guy I really wanted in there was Sio Moore.
If not seeking an upgrade thru a couple of guys like that, my 2nd option would have been to take a bigger guy that might have been able to make the move. Any which way, I wanted more speed, or toughness, or flexibility, or something - anything, that might have been able to give us a different look there that could be schemed to take advantage of. As it is, we're so pedestrian at the position that we might as well go ahead and cut 'em all, save the cap space, and throw some bartenders in there.
I fear Capers is having a lot of say in personnel decisions - and that can only serve to hurt our defense even after he's fired.wist
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Comment woodbuck27:
Well that seems about what many suspected. Packers don't want you. The Vikings very well might.
Linebacker Desmond Bishop released by Packers
Mike Garafolo, USA TODAY Sports 4:25 p.m. EDT June 17, 2013
The Green Bay Packers and Desmond Bishop could not agree on a restructured contract, so the veteran linebacker was released Monday, the team announced.
" An hour before the official announcement, Bishop leaked the move on his Twitter account:
"So much fun, so many memories & friendships forged in Green Bay," Bishop tweeted. "Ups & downs, wins & losses! Even a XLV championship. Forever grateful #Pack"...
Bishop's first visit is expected to be with the Vikings ...
... Bishop has insisted he is healthy enough to return, but the Packers appear to ready to move forward with Brad Jones as the inside linebacker next to A.J. Hawk.
Along with Minnesota, a possible landing spot already being mentioned is Kansas City, where new Chiefs general manager John Dorsey has set up shop. Dorsey was with the Packers when they drafted Bishop in the sixth round in 2007. " Fr. LINK above and click on LINK for the entire story.
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Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Posthttp://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...211148221.html
The answer to this is in this article.
It looks to me as if Desmond Bishop is simply on the wrong side of the numbers / $numbers$ game. Too many players available to play 2 ILBer positions. The salary he's due is getting restrictive Vs the risk and his past injury. Unless Bishop takes a pay cut, we might very well see him lining up against us on 'D' with the team that Greg Jennings hopes to play for. That in both cases conditional on their health.
Will any team accept a trade at this stage in the game? Won't a team like the Minnesota Vikings with need in the middle at LB; simply watch for Desmond Bishop's possible release; and if really interested in his skills?
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If early indications mean anything, Desmond Bishop won’t be a free agent long after being released by Green Bay on Monday.
Desmond Bishop already drawing interest following release
By Mark Sandritter on Jun 17 2013, 5:00p @MarkSandritter +
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The above article names five NFL teams that may have an interest in the services of Desmond Bishop. It will be interesting to see how long he lasts on the market and what he's signed for.
I hope that TT didn't make this move prematurely. I'm guessing TT feels he has the right pieces in place to have a solid competition in the middle of our OL. Did TT feel that That Desmond Bishop was a high risk or otherwise not able to compete in the middle of our OL ... so, 'no loss'?
Could it be that TT needs CAP space to extend BJ Raji ? If so isn't that premature? What is TT's position and Ryan Pickett and other men on our OL who might be FA's next year? Is this release related to any of that?
He's giving Mike Neal a chance at OLB and some flexibility there but back to Desmond Bishop.
What was TT's rush in releasing him? Especially considering that we are aware that TT was at least rumored to be trying to trade Desmond Bishop.
This move just seems strange to me. It's one of those... 'it'll take time' things, I'm guessing. Another TT thing. He's a tough man to read.
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