Packers To Part Ways With Bishop?

[woodbuck27]

If indeed we wanted to trade him it is probably too late for that now. If I were a GM of a team in need a of LBer why would I now make a deal with TT when I can get him for 'free' if I wait? I too suspect we're either trying to renegotiate with Bishop and his agent or he isn't yet 100% so we are waiting until he is before we waive him.

Yes.

PACKERS !

[falco]

I was also shocked when they released the short dude, can't remember his name at the moment.

Seems to me it either indicates a new caution around injuries (has Bishop had previous injuries?) or, probably more likely, a change in direction at the position.

[pbmax]

I was also shocked when they released the short dude, can't remember his name at the moment.

Seems to me it either indicates a new caution around injuries (has Bishop had previous injuries?) or, probably more likely, a change in direction at the position.

DJ Smith. Yes, I think the number of bodies there (as well as the contracts involved) has a lot to do with it.

[packer4life]

I recall reading sometime last year that Jones had really found his place in the middle and played quite well.

Still a shocker about Bishop though. Apparently all the rumors around draft time were true.

Damn right they were true. After thinking a good deal about the Bishop situation, I have realized that it's painfully clear that Bishop's injury was worse than expected. Tearing a hamstring through and through , as in a full muscle tear, can be repaired and can heal due to increased overall tissue vascularity. On the other hand, tearing the tendon, i.e. the attachment of connective tissue to bone anchoring the muscle, will be a greater hurdle. The latter injury would render Bishop essentially the equivalent of Hawk/Jones. At ~$3.5 mill, I think you make the cut if you can't trade...

[woodbuck27]

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/6/15/4432620/oakland-raiders-friday-mailbag-if-desmond-bishop-is-cut-could-raiders-be

Raiders Friday mailbag: If Desmond Bishop is cut could Raiders be interested?

By: Levi Damien on Jun 15 2013, 2:23 AM

Eli writes:

" I just read that the Green Bay Packers are close to cutting LB Desmond Bishop. Although we're deep at linebacker, do you see Oakland possibly going after him, with the McKenzie ties and him being a Bay Area native?

I could certainly see that signing. He has played inside linebacker for the Packers and the Raiders don't have a solid option behind Nick Roach in the middle. Currently they have Travis Goethel, who is currently and chronically injured, and UDFA rookie Billy Boyko as the depth. Bishop would be an upgrade to either of them and any linebacker in Green Bay we know has the Reggie McKenzie seal of approval...." Fr. LINK above

There's more in this article if your interested in the Oakland Raiders.

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[woodbuck27]

http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2013/6/13/4426020/replacing-desmond-bishop-packers-depth

Replacing Desmond Bishop: Packers Look to Young Linebackers for Depth

By: Eric Balkman on Jun 13 2013, 8:00 AM  @EricBalkman

" ... Perhaps no sport exemplifies the "next man up" philosophy better than professional football, And the Green Bay Packers are exemplifying it now with a new starting inside linebacker. With the potential release of Desmond Bishop — coming off a season-ending ruptured hamstring injury — the Packers are expected to insert "next man up" Brad Jones in the middle alongside veteran A.J. Hawk. ....

( Desmond) Bishop was a clear-cut, ready-made NFL starter with a few years of backup experience under his belt when the Packers needed him to fill former linebacker Nick Barnett’s starting spot. This year Green Bay does not have the luxury of having that next star waiting behind the starters. Jones is not the thumper that a healthy Bishop was, and yet he stands head and shoulders above the backup inside linebackers on this team. As long as Jones stays healthy, the Packers won’t remain completely soft in the middle, but if either he or Hawk goes down, Green Bay will probably run into the same issues they had last year in trying to stop the run. Thompson is still looking for the real "next man up" at inside linebacker, but he may have to wait until the 2014 NFL Draft to select him. " Fr. LINK above

Please click on LINK for much more.

GO PACKERS !

[Carolina_Packer]

Former Packer "Capologist" Andrew Brandt wrote a recent article for Sports Illustrated that talks about what is related to the issue of Bishop and players like that getting squeezed, although I know he's referring to guys looking for work, but Bishop is just on the other side of the process; being on a team, but being forced to take the pay cut or be waived. I would love to see any article written by an established vet on the market who now calls BS on the owners for their "promise" that the 2011 CBA would lead to the vets getting more money. Click here for the link to the Brandt article.

[pbmax]

Former Packer "Capologist" Andrew Brandt wrote a recent article for Sports Illustrated that talks about what is related to the issue of Bishop and players like that getting squeezed, although I know he's referring to guys looking for work, but Bishop is just on the other side of the process; being on a team, but being forced to take the pay cut or be waived. I would love to see any article written by an established vet on the market who now calls BS on the owners for their "promise" that the 2011 CBA would lead to the vets getting more money. Click here for the link to the Brandt article.

The entire idea that a rookie salary cap or more restrictive slotting system would lead to more money for vets was one of the dumbest ideas ever to be floated. Even with the cap having gone up (minimally at times, after the first year's regression) the money doesn't necessarily flow where people think it will. Its the fallacy of people expecting others to behave as they would and not accounting for diverging interests.

[Guiness]

The entire idea that a rookie salary cap or more restrictive slotting system would lead to more money for vets was one of the dumbest ideas ever to be floated. Even with the cap having gone up (minimally at times, after the first year's regression) the money doesn't necessarily flow where people think it will. Its the fallacy of people expecting others to behave as they would and not accounting for diverging interests.

Something strange has happened to be sure. The money that the first round picks were getting seems to have flowed to QBs to support the $20M contracts. As a knock on effect, money from mid-level vets seems to have joined the flow as teams try to keep up...for instance, there was NO reason for Romo to get the deal he did - averaging $18M/year. He could've been had for $15M, max, but JJ had to prove he can pay as much for a QB as anyone else.

[Smeefers]

The increase pay to QB's may also have resulted from rule changes that made this a pass first league. With the QB being so very important these days, it's only natural that they would demand so much more money.

[woodbuck27]

The increase pay to QB's may also have resulted from rule changes that made this a pass first league. With the QB being so very important these days, it's only natural that they would demand so much more money.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/friendly-nfl-climate-great-quarterbacks-spark-rise-passing-statistics/23039/

Friendly NFL Climate, Great Quarterbacks Spark Rise in Passing Statistics

Cold, Hard Football Facts for Jun 11, 2013

" It is no secret that passing statistics continue to rise in the NFL.

Rather than credit it to rule changes, there is an easy argument to be made that today’s quarterbacks are just better and mainly responsible for this higher level of play.

Not only did efficiency hit record levels in 2012 with a league-wide 85.6 passer rating and 2.63 interception percentage, but the volume did as well. Teams set records by averaging 21.2 completions and 231.3 net passing yards per game.

Teams also passed on 57.5 percent of plays last year, which is the highest pass ratio in NFL history." Fr. LINK above

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[King Friday]

The entire idea that a rookie salary cap or more restrictive slotting system would lead to more money for vets was one of the dumbest ideas ever to be floated.

Not really. It is true...except for the fact they let off two little letters after the word vets.

QB

Veteran QBs will get more money. Few others will.

[CaliforniaCheez]

This is why twitter is such a bad thing. Bad information spreads like a disease.

Step back a bit and don't get contaminated.


Teams are always checking on talent and teams with surplus talent are discussing amongst themselves trade possibilities/prices/costs etc. 90% of such discussions result in nothing happening.

Sometimes vulture teams leak things like this to lower the asking price.

I think many can outgrow susceptibility to this Twitter Panic Syndrome.

[pbmax]

Bishop gone.

@Debishop55

So much fun, so many memories & friendships forged in Green Bay. Ups & downs, wins & losses! Even a XLV championship. Forever grateful #Pack

[Guiness]

That's that I guess...end of the speculation.

Quite the story. Replaces an injured Nick Barnett, plays incredibly well and is rewarded with a nice new 4 year contract after the season. Plays one year on it, injures himself the following pre-season and is released before ever taking the field again.

I wonder if he'll catch on anywhere? Have to think he will.