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  • #31
    Originally posted by hoosier View Post
    holy christmas, I'd forgotten all about that one! Excellent!
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    • #32
      Originally posted by hoosier View Post
      You really believe Ozzie gave up Boldin for less than market value to help out his head coach's brother???
      Dad made him, otherwise he couldn't use the summer cottage this season!
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #33
        Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
        We did not draft Seneca Wallace (at least the Packers did not) nor did we sign Vince Young. Or Pickett. Or Grant when he was with the team. Your argument is absolute shit because we do it selectively, only when a player that fills a need becomes available at the time we need him. If you have a safety that's available right now, I'd love to hear about it. But your argument is silly and frankly, a little stupid.
        Again MJ, I am just speaking in general, philosophical terms - no team in the NFL is as draftcentric as GB. That is the proper way to build IMO, but at the same time, it can present problems that show up on the field - inexperience, miscommunication, busted coverages, etc.

        It is what it is.

        TT would rather live with those problems, than patch in a veteran.
        wist

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        • #34
          Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
          He's talking philosophy dammit; being qua being, not real being. In the Kantian and Descarte whorls of Wist's inner mind, TT has erected an impenetrable, perfectly reflecting free agent mirrored surface that prevents signing a non-draft pick until time exhausts itself in entropic dissolution.
          That be deep man
          wist

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          • #35
            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
            Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner. Repped.
            +1

            Boldin is out of Baltimore because Flacco got $120M to be a top 20 QB! His cap number was about $6M IIRC.
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            Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by wist43 View Post
              Again MJ, I am just speaking in general, philosophical terms - no team in the NFL is as draftcentric as GB. That is the proper way to build IMO, but at the same time, it can present problems that show up on the field - inexperience, miscommunication, busted coverages, etc.

              It is what it is.

              TT would rather live with those problems, than patch in a veteran.
              Then what's Wallace doing here? Why was Woodson on the team? Why did he go after Moss et al? It's not a done-deal "philosophy" as you make it out to be. We're just not foolhardy in running after every big name out there the way some here would like us to. This isn't Madden. We have to use some common sense. Case in point, I'm still waiting for the name of that safety that TT should have acquired. He hasn't because there isn't one available that suits what we need. Actually, I don't think there's a good one available at all...
              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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              • #37
                Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
                Then what's Wallace doing here? Why was Woodson on the team? Why did he go after Moss et al? It's not a done-deal "philosophy" as you make it out to be. We're just not foolhardy in running after every big name out there the way some here would like us to. This isn't Madden. We have to use some common sense. Case in point, I'm still waiting for the name of that safety that TT should have acquired. He hasn't because there isn't one available that suits what we need. Actually, I don't think there's a good one available at all...
                What part of "general, philosophical point" don't you understand?? You've become deliberately obtuse these days??

                You don't like the point I made - ignore it.

                We signed Reggie White to the biggest FA contract in history to that point - there, I win.
                wist

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                  What part of "general, philosophical point" don't you understand?? You've become deliberately obtuse these days??

                  You don't like the point I made - ignore it.

                  We signed Reggie White to the biggest FA contract in history to that point - there, I win.
                  I was responding to your last sentence there. I don't believe for a second that TT would rather live with a problem than patch it if a suitable patch were available. Seneca Wallace is the patch in point.
                  "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by mmmdk View Post
                    Woodson, Pickett and even Grant via trade seemed to work brilliantly. I think TT has trouble drafting OL as well as signing FA OL. TTs drafting has been awesome - just not lately...though I hope Lacy is a coming star RB.
                    TT has problems drafting O linemen that stay healthy. Thank god he drafted Bak!

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                    • #40
                      IMO, this is slightly silly. Boldin doesn't have that game if Hayward and Burnett are back there. My concern is with the injury rate. What the hell is going on out there?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                        wow, schooled by a woman
                        You go girl!!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
                          Case in point, I'm still waiting for the name of that safety that TT should have acquired. He hasn't because there isn't one available that suits what we need. Actually, I don't think there's a good one available at all...
                          Don't hold your breath. The guy who most people that are inclined to jump at every big name free agent would have wanted to sign is Michael Huff. TT could have had him for about $6M for three years, and then we could have watched our shiny new free agent safety getting smoked by Vernon Davis instead of seeing Julius Thomas run by him.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                            You go girl!!
                            I learned when I moved to Wisconsin long ago the male conceit that only those with the xy chromosome set can understand football is WAY stupid. The truth is, most women have played as many NFL snaps as I have. That being the case, their views are likely to be as informed as mine, and maybe even more so, since they aren't relying on misconceptions born of a few years of high school football. Besides, Zigs rules.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
                              I was responding to your last sentence there. I don't believe for a second that TT would rather live with a problem than patch it if a suitable patch were available. Seneca Wallace is the patch in point.
                              Backup QB is hardly a problem - if we have to go to the BU QB, our season is sunk regardless.

                              Besides, that argument is a double edged sword for you - if Harrell and Coleman were garbage enough to be kicked to the curb this year, they were garbage enough to be kicked to the curb last year - yet they lanquished on the roster, did they not??

                              If BU QB were such a big issue, and your contention were correct - they both would have been booted last year.
                              wist

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                              • #45
                                Here's a scoop - Washington is a truly horrible team.

                                If we can't stomp them in easy fashion next week - we should start looking at next years draft.

                                Wow, do they look horrible.
                                wist

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