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  • #46
    Originally posted by Guiness View Post
    Incognito isn't, and I'm betting Pouncey's name is the next one mentioned.
    Frank Schwab ‏@YahooSchwab 1h
    ESPN with some allegations toward Richie Incognito for intimidating Jonathan Martin, including that he made Martin give $15k to a.Vegas trip

    Frank Schwab ‏@YahooSchwab 1h
    A trip that Martin didn't go on, btw. ESPN says there are texts and a voicemail that show pattern of intimidation. Interesting

    CBS has Incog as the main guy and Pouncey also involved...
    Jonathan Martin -- who was dealing with ongoing harassment from teammates -- is on a leave of absence from the team and it could be lengthy, Jason La Canfora reports.
    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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    • #47
      So a rookie has to chip in on an annual Vegas Trip that is team building but he doesn't go he should still have to pay that's his right of passage. We always hear about rooks getting stuck spending cash on the vets.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
        So a rookie has to chip in on an annual Vegas Trip that is team building but he doesn't go he should still have to pay that's his right of passage. We always hear about rooks getting stuck spending cash on the vets.
        $15,000. ???? Buying a turkey or snuff is one thing, but $15,000? That's flat out extortion.

        How long does the guy remain a rookie? I don't know when the trip was, but I assume it was in the off season. His "rookiedom" should have stopped by then. Apparently half way through his second season, there was no let-up.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          $15,000. ???? Buying a turkey or snuff is one thing, but $15,000? That's flat out extortion.

          How long does the guy remain a rookie? I don't know when the trip was, but I assume it was in the off season. His "rookiedom" should have stopped by then. Apparently half way through his second season, there was no let-up.
          I wonder what KFC wings are costing Boyd and Jones weekly this year? Probably not a thousand a week.

          Rodgers and the O lineman took Bach out to eat and gave him a phony $10,000 bill. Rodgers and Co. then teased him mercilessly for believing such an outrageous bill for 8-10 guys.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Patler View Post
            That's flat out extortion.
            thats the exact word that came to my mind when i was reading about this story

            if true, incognito should end up in jail

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            • #51
              Had the totals wrong in Bach hazing dinner. It was an $11,000 dummy bill for 13 players in St. Louis during preseason. No details on how much the actual bill was.



              On the other hand, its now easier to believe why Incognito was always voted by players as one of the dirtiest. His teammates were helping elect him.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #52
                Fuck these guys. Intimidated and threatened by a dude who is 30 IQ points smarter than they are so they attack, attack, attack.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  I wonder what KFC wings are costing Boyd and Jones weekly this year? Probably not a thousand a week.

                  Rodgers and the O lineman took Bach out to eat and gave him a phony $10,000 bill. Rodgers and Co. then teased him mercilessly for believing such an outrageous bill for 8-10 guys.
                  Hard to run that sort of a bill up at Applebee's!
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                    Hard to run that sort of a bill up at Applebee's!
                    You mean they didn't eat at Favre's Steakhouse?
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                    • #55
                      Incognito suspended indefinitely by the Dolphins.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        Incognito suspended indefinitely by the Dolphins.
                        Whoa.

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                        • #57
                          Based on what little that can be gleaned from this, I can't imagine Martin can return to that team. Nor can I imagine that Philbin can succeed as coach. If the league has to step in on something which should have been handled internally, I think he's lost that locker room.

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                          • #58
                            Lots of speculation and emoting going on in this thread. I'll just wait for the facts.

                            It's quite possible that the situation isn't as sensational as it warrants. Did Martin overreact? I guess we will know when the details come out.

                            However, since the Dolphins suspended Incognito indefinitely, I think they owe their fans at least a cursory explanation of why they took that action. They won't provide one, probably under orders from the NFL legal brass, so we just have to wait and hope that the league will do a better job on this one than they did in the "Bounty-gate" scandal.

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                            • #59
                              I can't imagine they would have suspended Incognito "indefinitely" without clear evidence of actions very much over the top of what is acceptable. They have to be very sure about what went on, and it must have been extreme.

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                              • #60
                                It must have been extreme for a guy to react like he did and feel he had to leave the premises. Philbin has a big mess on his hands and he didn't handle it well at all. I can't imagine Joe had no clue this kind of crap wasn't going on.

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