Official 49er Playoff Week Discussion Thread

[bobblehead]

Ymy chief criticisms of TT. He's always building for tomorrow - today doesn't matter. We got lucky and won a SB, that has afforded TT a lot of slack, but building you team exclusively one way, to the exclusion of any other avenue is narrowminded and comes with its own set of problems - problems that we see result in miscommunication on the field far too often.

This isn't quite fair either though. We went 15-1, and have been to the playoffs 5 straight years. Also played in the NFCC with Favre. And you don't ever get "lucky" to win a superbowl, you earn it. If anything we got UNLUCKY by losing Collins, the 3rd best safety in the league and poised to become the best at that time.

[bobblehead]

I may get mocked for this...........but it got me thinking........WHO could have been this yrs Eugene Robinson


ED REED ?????????

MICHAEL HUFF...consider that my mocking. But in hindsight I wish we had signed the gay safety.

EDIT: I can't resist. Who better to take a young man under his wing and turn him into a man.

[Bretsky]

MICHAEL HUFF...consider that my mocking. But in hindsight I wish we had signed the gay safety.

EDIT: I can't resist. Who better to take a young man under his wing and turn him into a man.

I'll fess up for Huff; and I can take any beating out there
I would still have liked to see how Huff did in GB; I still wonder if he's really worse than Jennings or the other scraps we have out there

[Bretsky]

MICHAEL HUFF...consider that my mocking. But in hindsight I wish we had signed the gay safety.

EDIT: I can't resist. Who better to take a young man under his wing and turn him into a man.

WHICH SAFETY ARE YOU REFERRING TO ???

[Bretsky]

TRUE STORY.......Red might appreciate this

Anybody remember Jim Leonard ? I sit by his dads best friend at the Badgers games. On his last round of free agency he contacted GB wanting to get an opportunity. No Interest brining in a smart veteran like Leonard.

I'm not saying Leonard is a star...but the dude is a dam smart football player...certainly similar to better than our #2 safeties and with strong strong leadership skills...........and special team return skills.

Leonard is the only real example of GB choosing to try to develop youth over bringing veteran leaders in....I'm sure there are others

[woodbuck27]

MICHAEL HUFF...consider that my mocking. But in hindsight I wish we had signed the gay safety.

EDIT: I can't resist. Who better to take a young man under his wing and turn him into a man.

FA Kerry Rhodes.

Is he out as Gay?

It's tough for those fellas to get there.

[red]

TRUE STORY.......Red might appreciate this

Anybody remember Jim Leonard ? I sit by his dads best friend at the Badgers games. On his last round of free agency he contacted GB wanting to get an opportunity. No Interest brining in a smart veteran like Leonard.

I'm not saying Leonard is a star...but the dude is a dam smart football player...certainly similar to better than our #2 safeties and with strong strong leadership skills...........and special team return skills.

Leonard is the only real example of GB choosing to try to develop youth over bringing veteran leaders in....I'm sure there are others

see, why wouldn't you even bring him in for a look?

thats why i hate TT

[red]

there goes flowers career

just like collins, career ended by the ass of another player

[woodbuck27]

see, why wouldn't you even bring him in for a look?

thats why i hate TT

TT has to almost mold his boys in clay.

It's part of his should I write 'arrogance' ... naw personality.

[wist43]

This isn't quite fair either though. We went 15-1, and have been to the playoffs 5 straight years. Also played in the NFCC with Favre. And you don't ever get "lucky" to win a superbowl, you earn it. If anything we got UNLUCKY by losing Collins, the 3rd best safety in the league and poised to become the best at that time.

Had we kept the '10 team largely together, Collins not gotten hurt, Jenkins resigned, or at least replaced - the run that won us the SB and the 15-1 season would look more legit; but...

And it's a big BUT, Kansas City exposed us that year, and we've been pretty average as a team ever since, and our defense has been more junk than not since the end of the SB.

If you remember, TT did next to nothing to help the defense in the '11 offseason. He took House in the 4th round, DJ Smith and Ricky Elmore in the 6th, and Lawrence Guy in the 7th. None of those guys contributed anything in '11, and House is the only one still on the roster, but he's been benched.

To me it was obvious our front seven was a disaster waiting to happen, but TT did nothing, and we've paid a heavy price for his unwillingness to address the problem adequately. I think if he had actually recognized the disaster that our defense really was, and had brought in some help in '11, that would have legitimized the SB more, and the 15-1 season might have actually ended in a SB repeat.

As it is, our defense has been so bad these past few years that even with having one of the best QB's in the league, and a loaded offense, we're pretty much an average team and a home underdog in the playoffs this year.

[Bretsky]

see, why wouldn't you even bring him in for a look?

thats why i hate TT

He's a savy veteran and proven winner who wanted to play for Green Bay since he was a kid.
He was a near minimum guy since it was after he got his ching
TT should have brought him in but it's not in his mojo and TT prefers to go with youth with upside five years from now.
You know what you are getting with Jim Leonard....a guy who has overperformed his entire career, and hard studer who is great for the team chemistry. A decent player. But he's not youthful anymore

[woodbuck27]

TRUE STORY.......Red might appreciate this

Anybody remember Jim Leonard ? I sit by his dads best friend at the Badgers games. On his last round of free agency he contacted GB wanting to get an opportunity. No Interest brining in a smart veteran like Leonard.

I'm not saying Leonard is a star...but the dude is a dam smart football player...certainly similar to better than our #2 safeties and with strong strong leadership skills...........and special team return skills.

Leonard is the only real example of GB choosing to try to develop youth over bringing veteran leaders in....I'm sure there are others

FS Jim Leonhard:

http://www.nfl.com/player/jimleonhard/2506279/careerstats

He plays pretty big for a smaller fella.

[bobblehead]

see, why wouldn't you even bring him in for a look?

thats why i hate TT

Because the veterans minimum salary is something like 750k and guaranteed on the first day of the season. Because he would have taken the roster spot of a player who we are hoping to develop. Because he likely wouldn't have been much on ST as an aging guy.

That being said, I think TT brings in a veteran or 2 this year.

[bobblehead]

And it's a big BUT, Kansas City exposed us that year, and we've been pretty average as a team ever since, and our defense has been more junk than not since the end of the SB.

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Again, I just can't accept that statement as anything credible. We lost one game, but we were exposed. Funny how KC couldn't expose themselves at a nudist convention that year, yet they exposed the team no one else could all year. Most teams get "exposed" at least 4-5 times a year.

[wist43]

Well, guess what I just spied on the boob-tube??

The Eagles playing a 3-3 nickel against the Saints, lol...

I haven't been paying too close attention to personnel and formation in this game, but I decided to pay closer attention to the x's and o's a little bit in this game b/c both offenses are supposed to be explosive, but it is a low scoring game.

The Eagles version looks different than the one I would envision for the Packers b/c their personnel are so different from ours, but the concept is the same. They were doing a lot out of it. The 3 down linemen rushing, sending a LB and corner on one down, a LB and a safety on another, just a LB for a 4 man rush on another.

There's a lot you can do with it. I like that personnel grouping a hell of a lot more than the 2-4.