Robert McGinn end of season breakdown

[woodbuck27]

As a Packer Fan I'd rather face a bunch of those QB's in the playoffs as opposed to Kapernik....who I detest.

Don't we detest him because he's so damn good/dangerous !?

Kaepernick is ...... combined with Jim Harbaugh.....scary.

Now give him conditions like we saw him enjoy in Carolina on Sunday Jan. 12, 2014 and all, those weapons and that very solid OL and his teams defense and it's not hard to see what the San Fran 49ers went to the Super Bowl and we're just edged out last year and get this:

Will more than likely be the NFC Rep again this year.

B.

I'm really beginning to feel:

It'll be The San Francisco 49ers and the NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS in SUPER BOWL XLVIII.

[Striker]

I'm just trolling. Wilson has had some awful games this year though. The Seattle defense is a bigger part of why they are so successful if you ask me.

Same with the 49ers and Kaepernick. Fantastic defense helps above average/good QBs look great.

[bobblehead]

People who make these kinds of drastic revisions to their evaluations based on a small number of events (8 games?) have usually made 2 errors. Too optimistic on one side and too pessimistic on the other.

An interesting view pbmax.

I need to meditate on that response in terms of how anyone's emotional perception sets him/her on a certain course or call for action.

Maybe? I just gave you the most accurate if unqualified response.

There is a reason that I respond to one set of posters by saying we are much better than you think, and another set by pointing out the teams weaknesses. Most people do the "Bill Walton" as I call it..."Chris Webber has the greatest hands in the history of the NBA" "Allen Iverson has the quickest first step EVER!!"

[bobblehead]

Shouldn't it be just less than half that are below average?

Well, depending on how exactly the numbers break down it could be just less or just over. With a large sample size its likely to be statistically insignificant.

[bobblehead]

You wouldn't believe how this post sent me into a chamber of dire need to somehow reach out to you.

I'll just remind you of how this character put it:

" Stupid is as stupid does." Forrest Gump

I always believe that anyone is deserving of an opinion and such being respected for the value in turn that affords us:

Therefore cannot be classified as:

STUPID.

What may be stupid is to ever deem anything connected to another as "stupid"?

A) Stupid certainly can be classified. B) Stupid was my opinion of the opinion, and therefore you must respect my opinion that the aforementioned opinion was stupid...by your own logic.

[bobblehead]

Don't we detest him because he's so damn good/dangerous !?

I detest him because he is a dick. I have no problem with him kissing his bicep, but he is the type that isn't content winning, he must mock Cam Newton's celebration. That is a dick move plain and simple. Likely if we kick their ass next year and Rodgers were to kiss his bicep, Kap would be up in arms about it.

[bobblehead]

Same with the 49ers and Kaepernick. Fantastic defense helps above average/good QBs look great.

Which is my entire case against the "playmaker" theory. Given a lot of talent around you, good players look great. Avg. players look good.

[mraynrand]

Likely if we kick their ass next year and Rodgers were to kiss his bicep, Kap would be up in arms about it.

I see what you did there

[Smidgeon]

Some of you guys might actually have to acknowledge that the reason Flynn looks so much better as a GB QB, and looks like dog crap playing for other teams, is because the GB coach is an outstanding offensive mind.

I'd like to see M3 go back to the offense of 2011. Make other teams play from behind. I do think M3 has an oustanding offensive mind, but I'm starting to think it's a bit inconsistent too. Too many times in the last couple years have the Packers been unable to get the points they need. Yes, the SF defense is a very good defense. But an outstanding offensive mind should be able to find exploitations.

I don't know. I'm just beginning to wonder more and more now. Is it the personnel? Is the talent there but the discipline lacking? Are the coaches too stubborn?

I thought this team was going to be dangerous for years watching the Arizona playoffs game (thank you, refs for all the non-calls). And I thought the 2010 superbowl was the start. Then 15-1 in the regular season in 2011, and defensive collapses in 2011, 2012, and 2013 (not necessarily the playoff game this year).

It's hard to be too optimistic when the trend has become a consistently collapsing defense and a team (coaches/players) who can't get it done in the playoffs.

Don't get me wrong, I very much appreciate being in the playoffs every year. I just want to feel like there's a chance to go further than "just get in". There have been good reasons every year too (i.e. injuries). I just want to see the Packers do something with personnel (coaches/players) that convince me they take the collapses as seriously as I do.

And one last thing: "they" often say that Rodgers is arguably the best QB in the league. He is very good, but with Brady taking his team to the AFC championship for the third consecutive year, is it even a debate (and no, I don't think Payton is either because he needs a great cast to do anything in the playoffs)?

/frustration

[SkinBasket]

1. Tom Brady
2. Ben Roethlisberger
3. Joe Flacco
4. Andrew Luck
5. Peyton Manning
6. Phillip Rivers
7. Eli Manning
8. Aaron Rodgers
9. Matt Stafford
10. Drew Brees

Maybe:
1. Nick Foles
2. Matt Ryan

Sweat mother of muffin humpers.

[mraynrand]

Don't get me wrong, I very much appreciate being in the playoffs every year. I just want to feel like there's a chance to go further than "just get in".

Strange. Even with all the injuries, I though this team had a shot. They were one play away from beating SF, and SF could be your SB champ, if they can conquer the ghosts in Seattle.
Teams adjusted to the 2011 offense and just decided to stop the big plays and make the Packers move the ball down the field. Teams like SF had a better shot of stopping the slow march with just their front 7, which limited GB. So Stubby adjusted and insisted on a running game to hold the ball more and protect the defense, and they did just that. APRH, this team is pretty deep with talent and is always in the hunt.

[Bretsky]

I'm just trolling. Wilson has had some awful games this year though. The Seattle defense is a bigger part of why they are so successful if you ask me.

cool enough....and yes he did. That defense is the best in the NFL

[Smidgeon]

Strange. Even with all the injuries, I though this team had a shot. They were one play away from beating SF, and SF could be your SB champ, if they can conquer the ghosts in Seattle.
Teams adjusted to the 2011 offense and just decided to stop the big plays and make the Packers move the ball down the field. Teams like SF had a better shot of stopping the slow march with just their front 7, which limited GB. So Stubby adjusted and insisted on a running game to hold the ball more and protect the defense, and they did just that. APRH, this team is pretty deep with talent and is always in the hunt.

APRH, the offense is deep with talent and always in the hunt. My jury is still out on the defense.

And that first quarter where the Packers didn't even attempt a pass kind of took the wind out of the optimism sails for me. There was still a chance at the end, but that first quarter put me at the edge of my seat.

[Rutnstrut]

"And one last thing: "they" often say that Rodgers is arguably the best QB in the league. He is very good, but with Brady taking his team to the AFC championship for the third consecutive year, is it even a debate (and no, I don't think Payton is either because he needs a great cast to do anything in the playoffs)?"

Not even close imo, Brady is a much better QB than Rodgers, of course Brady also has a much better head coach.

[pbmax]

"And one last thing: "they" often say that Rodgers is arguably the best QB in the league. He is very good, but with Brady taking his team to the AFC championship for the third consecutive year, is it even a debate (and no, I don't think Payton is either because he needs a great cast to do anything in the playoffs)?"

Not even close imo, Brady is a much better QB than Rodgers, of course Brady also has a much better head coach.

Of course, because the QB is the entire offense and there is no such thing as defense or Special Teams.