Robert McGinn end of season breakdown

[Striker]

because this isn't the first fucking time this team has been shit

3 years now we've been setting records on defense for futility

fickle? fuck that. we're sick of seeing the same shit happen week in and week out, same mistakes for 3 year. hell some of the mistakes like not covering anyone in the middle of the field have been problems for more then 3 years

I thinks teams like the Jaguars or the Vikings are shit. Huge disparity between them and the Packers. The Pack has some definite flaws, they can't overcome the mass amount of injuries they're suffering from, and unfortunately, haven't been able to put a complete game together in the playoffs.

But there's a line of rationality that gets lost after a disappointing season. I do want Thompson and McCarthy to find a way to patch the holes in the defense and find a way to stop the injury epidemic. But I don't want the wholesale changes a lot of knee jerk posters on the JS want (wading through the 500+ comments on the JS article makes my brain hurt).

[Striker]

Touche. I suppose the first game, 34-28 was closer than I would guessed. We'll see. I don't know - I feel like SF is much, much better than us. I think it will catch up eventually once contracts come up for a lot of the young guys. They won't be able to keep the QB, the receivers, the LBs, etc. Starting to see it already with them not having the room to resign Gholston.

It'll be the same thing with the Seahawks. It will be interesting to see if those teams go the way of the Jets (who were the second coming for a while with back-to-back AFC Championship games before fading the last few years) or if they find a way to maintain their rosters once they have to start shelling out big bucks.

[channtheman]

It'll be interesting to see if the Seahawks pay big money to a QB who's stat line compares favorably to a young Timmy Tebow. Seattle is winning in spite of Wilson, not because of him.

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It'll be interesting to see if the Seahawks pay big money to a QB who's stat line compares favorably to a young Timmy Tebow. Seattle is winning in spite of Wilson, not because of him.

at this point, i don't know if they will be able to pay him, not without making some major cap moves

i did some numbers in another thread a few weeks back, but the gist of it was, they are already tight against the cap for next season and that's without resigning any of their own free agents. and they have some pretty important free agents

the seahawks dynasty could come crashing to earth pretty quickly

things look better for them cap wise in 2015 when it will be time to resign wilson, but they need to get there first

[Bretsky]

It'll be interesting to see if the Seahawks pay big money to a QB who's stat line compares favorably to a young Timmy Tebow. Seattle is winning in spite of Wilson, not because of him.

Haaaa ? This is a pretty ridiculous statement unless you are basing this on one game as opposed to the 17 he's played as well as last year

2013 RUSSELL WILSON

The 7th best passer rating in the National Football League
3357 yards
26 passing TD' while throwing only 9 intereceptions
Completion %- 63%

On paper he's better than Kapernik in every category

In 2012 his stats were pretty much the same...100qb rating....3100yds....26td....10int


If you consider what Seattle is trying to do Russell Wilson has given them exactly what they want and more.

He'll get his money from Seattle

[mraynrand]

It'll be interesting to see if the Seahawks pay big money to a QB who's stat line compares favorably to a young Timmy Tebow. Seattle is winning in spite of Wilson, not because of him.

This is the NFL. My advice is to throw out the stats and watch games. Plus, the Seahawk players would throw themselves in front of traffic for that guy. Stats are for Fantasy geeks and Madden NFL games.

[bobblehead]

Touche. I suppose the first game, 34-28 was closer than I would guessed. We'll see. I don't know - I feel like SF is much, much better than us. I think it will catch up eventually once contracts come up for a lot of the young guys. They won't be able to keep the QB, the receivers, the LBs, etc. Starting to see it already with them not having the room to resign Gholston.

They are more talented overall, but the gap is small...and very likely filled if....APRH

[bobblehead]

It'll be interesting to see if the Seahawks pay big money to a QB who's stat line compares favorably to a young Timmy Tebow. Seattle is winning in spite of Wilson, not because of him.

Speaking of which, Manning finally tied Tebow for playoff wins. Lets see if he can pass him next week.

[mraynrand]

Speaking of which, Manning finally tied Tebow for playoff wins. Lets see if he can pass him next week.

you mean with Denver. You need to be careful with your selective use of stats!

[bobblehead]

you mean with Denver. You need to be careful with your selective use of stats!

I firmly believe in stats. Half of all schools are below average. In my mind I added Denver. I can't help it if you can't read my mind.

[mraynrand]

I firmly believe in stats. Half of all schools are below average.

Shouldn't it be just less than half that are below average?

[call_me_ishmael]

They are more talented overall, but the gap is small...and very likely filled if....APRH

Agree to disagree. I feel like the talent gap is significant.

[channtheman]

I'm just trolling. Wilson has had some awful games this year though. The Seattle defense is a bigger part of why they are so successful if you ask me.

[woodbuck27]

People who make these kinds of drastic revisions to their evaluations based on a small number of events (8 games?) have usually made 2 errors. Too optimistic on one side and too pessimistic on the other.

An interesting view pbmax.

I need to meditate on that response in terms of how anyone's emotional perception sets him/her on a certain course or call for action.

Maybe? I just gave you the most accurate if unqualified response.

[woodbuck27]

Yes, realize the context in which I made the post. Someone was saying something stupid such as the packers without Rodgers have no chance against these teams, but if you took their starting QB away they still are right there with us.

You wouldn't believe how this post sent me into a chamber of dire need to somehow reach out to you.

I'll just remind you of how this character put it:

" Stupid is as stupid does." Forrest Gump

I always believe that anyone is deserving of an opinion and such being respected for the value in turn that affords us:

Therefore cannot be classified as:

STUPID.

What may be stupid is to ever deem anything connected to another as "stupid"?