Packer 2014 compensatory picks

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Craig Turner @ct17draftnut 51m
Quick comp pick thoughts. Josh Brown counting is a rule change, breaking previous examples of players not counting when signed midseason.

Craig Turner @ct17draftnut 50m
Interesting that Umenyiora, on team option, counted, but Stephen Jackson, on player option, did not count. No logic in that.

Craig Turner @ct17draftnut 46m
Osi counting shows new available contract strategy. Add automatically voided years to end of contract. Spreads out cap hit over fake years.

Craig Turner @ct17draftnut 19m
@PFF_Pete @JimmyKempski There is supposed to be a tiny performance-based adjustment to comp picks, but it is so small as to be irrelevant.

Craig Turner @ct17draftnut 31s
@Jason_OTC @SandoESPN @Cianaf Coles renegotiation I believe lopped off a year. Was SJax similar? Contracted year turned to player option?

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Here is the comparison between projected and actual:

[B]ROUND	PICK	TEAM		PROJECTED					RESULT[/B]
3	33-97	Steelers	3 – Pittsburgh – Mike Wallace			Correct
3	34-98	Packers		3 – Green Bay – Greg Jennings			Correct
3	35-99	Ravens		4 – Baltimore – Paul Kruger			3 not 4
3	36-100	49ers		4 – San Francisco – Dashon Goldson		3 not 4
4	33-133	Lions		4 – Detroit – Gosder Cherilus			correct
4	34-134	Ravens		4 – Baltimore – Dannell Ellerbe			correct
4	35-135	Texans		5 – Houston – Connor Barwin			4 not 5
4	36-136	Lions								wrong
4	37-137	Jets		5 – New York Jets – LaRon Landry		4 not 5
4	38-138	Ravens		5 – Baltimore – Cary Williams			4 not 5
4	39-139	Falcons		5 – Atlanta – Brent Grimes			4 not 5
4	40-140	Patriots	6 – New England – Patrick Chung			4 not 6
5	33-173	Steelers	5 – Pittsburgh – Keenan Lewis 			correct
5	34-174	Giants		5 – New York Giants – Martellus Bennett		correct
5	35-175	Ravens		5 – Baltimore – Ed Reed				correct
5	36-176	Packers		6 – Green Bay – Erik Walden			5 not 6
6	33-209	Jets		6 – New York Jets – Mike DeVito			correct
6	34-210	Jets		6 – New York Jets – Dustin Keller		correct
6	35-211	Texans		5 – Houston –  Glover Quin    			6 not 5
6	36-212	Bengals		6 – Cincinnati – Manny Lawson			correct
6	37-213	Jets		6 – New York Jets – Shonn Greene		correct
6	38-214	Rams		6 – St. Louis – Brandon Gibson			correct
6	39-215	Steelers							wrong
7	33-248	Cowboys		7 – Dallas – Mike Jenkins			correct
7	34-249	Rams		7 – St. Louis – Bradley Fletcher		correct
7	35-250	Rams		7 – St. Louis – Craig Dahl			correct
7	36-251	Cowboys		7 – Dallas – Victor Butler			correct
7	37-252	Bengals		7 – Cincinnati – Pat Sims			correct
7	38-253	Falcons		7 – Atlanta – Will Svitek			correct
7	39-254	Cowboys		7 - Dallas - Kenyon Coleman			correct
7	40-255	Falcons		7 – Atlanta – Christopher Owens			correct
7	41-256	Texans								wrong

MISSED ENTIRELY

,	,	,		7 – St. Louis – Rob Turner			,
,	,	,		7 – Cincinnati – Bruce Gradkowski			,
,	,	,		7 – San Diego – Shaun Phillips			,

so i gotta ask

what the fuck did the lions do to get a 4th?

they lost a bunch of shit. the only real talent they lost was avril, and he signed a short term deal in seattle, and then the lions brought in reggie bush

that just doesn't seem right

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so i gotta ask

what the fuck did the lions do to get a 4th?

they lost a bunch of shit. the only real talent they lost was avril, and he signed a short term deal in seattle, and then the lions brought in reggie bush

that just doesn't seem right

DETROIT Lost:
Cliff Avril, Gosder Cherilus, Justin Durant, Drayton Florence, Sammie Lee Hill
Gained: Reggie Bush, Jason Jones, Glover Quin

Avril and Cherilus apparently, though Turner did not think Avril would count.

[Joemailman]

so i gotta ask

what the fuck did the lions do to get a 4th?

they lost a bunch of shit. the only real talent they lost was avril, and he signed a short term deal in seattle, and then the lions brought in reggie bush

that just doesn't seem right

But don't you think some people are wondering how the hell the Packers got a 5th for someone named Erik Walden? Like maybe Ravens fans who saw their team get the same for Ed Reed.

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But don't you think some people are wondering how the hell the Packers got a 5th for someone named Erik Walden? Like maybe Ravens fans who saw their team get the same for Ed Reed.

Maybe, but not Ravens fans. Reed is very diminished and didn't even play in all 16 games.

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Quin and Bush should have canceled Cherilus and Avril, but instead Quin's contract did not and they picked up the 4th.

Just a gift because their city is a wasteland of degenerates. We all feel bad about that.

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Quin and Bush should have canceled Cherilus and Avril, but instead Quin's contract did not and they picked up the 4th.

Just a gift because their city is a wasteland of degenerates. We all feel bad about that.

6. The round of the pick awarded is primarily determined by the annual value of the contract signed. Signed players cancel out lost players with equal contracts, then lower contracts, before canceling out higher contracts.
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Gosder Cherilus was 5/$35 mil (7)
Cliff Avril was 2/$13 mil (6.5)
Sammie Lee Hill 3/$11.4 mil (3.8)
Justin Durant was 2/$2.4 (1.2)
Drayton Florence was 1/$940K

Bush 4/$16 (4)
Jason Jones 3/$9.5 mil (3.17)
Glover Quin 5/$23.5 (4.7)

Bush was lower than both Cherilus and Avril on average per year, as was Quin. So they took out players of lower averages first. In fact, at first glance this looks like an egregious oversight by Turner. Almost seems more likely that something got lost in editing and posting. If tech Lions don't lose five guys who qualified, it would have cost them one of the high comp picks they got.

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In fact here is the explanation for the projection for Detroit:

Lost: Cherilus ($6.9m), Avril ($6.5m), S. Hill ($3.8m), Durant ($1.2m)

Signed: Quin ($4.7m), Bush ($4m), J. Jones ($3.2m)


Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/r...VPGEZE8vmvf.99

He was not counting Florence as a qualifying lost player. He did say elsewhere that the NFL did qualify players at lower salaries than before starting last year.

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SPEAKING OF WALDEN..........the Colts Beat Writer was on pre free agency...and noted how the Colts were once again going to be very active in Free Agency.....he discussed last year's free agents
And noted the one man who greatly underperformed his contract and was a huge disappointment............was...........Eric Walden

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In short, Lions lucked out.

[Joemailman]

I'm guessing the Packers next year get a 5th for both EDS and Jones. Unless TT signs a qualifying UFA or 2.

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4 of the top 98 picks means TT has a good chance of drafting some good talent, and possibly for being active in trading up/down. Agree they'll look to draft a WR. So TT has 9 picks to play with, and they aren't all R7's.

Also, getting a 5th for Walden was an unexpected pleasant surprise.

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4 of the top 98 picks means TT has a good chance of drafting some good talent, and possibly for being active in trading up/down. Agree they'll look to draft a WR. So TT has 9 picks to play with, and they aren't all R7's.

Also, getting a 5th for Walden was an unexpected pleasant surprise.

not yet anyway

we all know its TT's dream to own the whole 7th round

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not yet anyway

we all know its TT's dream to own the whole 7th round

Be fair Red. TT followed fan recipe for success and traded up for Morgan Burnett. He then signed the player he traded up for to a monster contract, so sometimes old TT does it exactly as you would like him to...oh yea, he also followed fan model 101 by signing a big name over the hill DE to a nice FA contract as well. So in short, TT is coming around to the average fans way of doing things. All should be well now.

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About time, is it just me or did this seem to take forever this year to get the official comp picks?

Let the mock drafts begin!