Finley getting 57th opinion on his neck today

[Pugger]

He had only one impressive play?

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/

Did you guys see how many Jordy dropped?

[pbmax]

Don't forget the wild card in the TE game....Colt Lyerla.

Some more insight into his background from people who know him:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...261042541.html

That article reads like nothing is resolved. Nothing at all. I am rooting for the kid, but I am not optimistic. Sports haven't saved him yet. Sports plus money might be worse.

[Patler]

That article reads like nothing is resolved. Nothing at all. I am rooting for the kid, but I am not optimistic. Sports haven't saved him yet. Sports plus money might be worse.

Seems sort of lost, doesn't he?

Who knows, GB is a rather unique environment for a professional athlete. Some think it will be good for him, yet he is portrayed as a very private person. I'm not sure the fishbowl of GB will be good. Doesn't seem to be any questions in the minds of those who know him that he has the talent to be a special player.

[run pMc]

Finley's a talented guy. There aren't a lot of TE's with his blend of size and athleticism. With the way GB spreads the ball around I don't think you're going to have a lot of eye-popping stats out of your TE. He was off to a good start last season (IIRC on pace for about 60rec & 800 yds) before the injury, and he would've been a boost to the offense once Rodgers went down.


If he clears the medical I think he's worth offering a short-term incentive laden contract, but I'm skeptical Finley takes that. There is a market for guys like him, but the injury history will scare teams. Still, it sounds like he wants to get paid big money, but just I don't see how any sane GM would do that. Once they sign all the draft picks they'll be about $11M under the cap. Knowing you have Jordy and Cobb extensions to do, what would you consider a reasonable contract offer for Finley?


I think if they sign Finley then Ryan Taylor, Bostick, Stoneburner, and Lyerla are likely fighting for one spot. Quarless will stick unless he bombs, and R.Rodgers will stick because he's an R3 pick. (Unless he sucks worse than Cory Rodgers.)
Maybe they can stow Lyerla on the PS.

[Fritz]

Finley's a talented guy. There aren't a lot of TE's with his blend of size and athleticism. With the way GB spreads the ball around I don't think you're going to have a lot of eye-popping stats out of your TE. He was off to a good start last season (IIRC on pace for about 60rec & 800 yds) before the injury, and he would've been a boost to the offense once Rodgers went down.


If he clears the medical I think he's worth offering a short-term incentive laden contract, but I'm skeptical Finley takes that. There is a market for guys like him, but the injury history will scare teams. Still, it sounds like he wants to get paid big money, but just I don't see how any sane GM would do that. Once they sign all the draft picks they'll be about $11M under the cap. Knowing you have Jordy and Cobb extensions to do, what would you consider a reasonable contract offer for Finley?


I think if they sign Finley then Ryan Taylor, Bostick, Stoneburner, and Lyerla are likely fighting for one spot. Quarless will stick unless he bombs, and R.Rodgers will stick because he's an R3 pick. (Unless he sucks worse than Cory Rodgers.)
Maybe they can stow Lyerla on the PS.

I am not sure I would be okay with even a short-term, incentive-laden contract. I think a one-year deal gives Finley a chance to show not only that he is and can stay healthy, but that he isn't gun-shy about going over the middle. But I am afraid he is afraid of going over the middle, and I'm afraid, too, that he won't be healthy enough to start the season. Thus, you'd be giving a guy a deal that would rob you of a younger guy on your roster, and would give you an effective and healthy Finley (if he is) for only a part of the season, and would essentially pay him to showcase himself for other teams. And I'm not sure Lyerla would last on PS. Once he's in Green Bay and shows stability and ability, someone would snatch him off the PS.

But I still like the post. It's thoughtful.

[Brandon494]

That article reads like nothing is resolved. Nothing at all. I am rooting for the kid, but I am not optimistic. Sports haven't saved him yet. Sports plus money might be worse.

Just because someone stumbles and loses their way, it doesn't mean they're lost forever.

[Just Jeff]

Not sure if someone should start a thread about Finley's 58th medical opinion, but it looks like he got what he didn't get the prior 57 times.

[Brandon494]

Regarding cap space, money wasted is money wasted; and since it now rolls forward it can always benefit you in the future, maybe even years later, just like a personal rainy day fund. Any player who underperforms what he is paid hurts the salary cap situation to some extent.

Had they not paid Finley, or not paid him so much, maybe they would have felt more comfortable paying Wells that same year (we can wonder if that would have been any better). The even more space now might have made them comfortable retaining EDS this year, and/or Jones; or extending both Nelson and Cobb (we don't know how those will turn out). Could they have done at least some those anyway? Sure, but the current group seems unlikely to push cap limits if they can help it.

So by resigning Finley we missed out on two average centers who got overpaid. Sorry bro but TT was not spending that much money on those guys even if we didn't sign Finley. TT is one of the best in the league at handling cap space and we have more than enough room to resign Nelson and Cobb. Finley's contract did not set this team back in anyway.

[Just Jeff]

So by resigning Finley we missed out on two average centers who got overpaid. Sorry bro but TT was not spending that much money on those guys even if we didn't sign Finley. TT is one of the best in the league at handling cap space and we have more than enough room to resign Nelson and Cobb. Finley's contract did not set this team back in anyway.

I agree that cap management is a complete non issue as it has never, in the history of the NFL, ever caused the league to impose sanctions for exceeding it but...

Wells > Saturday
Wells > EDS
Wells > all other centers that have never taken a snap in the NFL.
Wells > Average

[Brandon494]

I agree that cap management is a complete non issue as it has never, in the history of the NFL, ever caused the league to impose sanctions for exceeding it but...

Wells > Saturday
Wells > EDS
Wells > all other centers that have never taken a snap in the NFL.
Wells > Average

Wells was a good center but I'm not paying him to be one of the highest centers in the NFL like the Rams did. Hes 33 now and has been injured each season since leaving the Packers.

[Just Jeff]

Wells was a good center but I'm not paying him to be one of the highest centers in the NFL like the Rams did. Hes 33 now and has been injured each season since leaving the Packers.

Who is talking about signing him now? When he was on the Packers he was good. Since he left the team, the position has been not good. Since he left, we have the #1 QB in terms of time on his ass. I'd have kept Wells.

Good > not good.

[Brandon494]

Our centers have struggled in the run game not in pass protection, smart GMs don't pay centers past their prime nearly 6M a year. There is a reason the #1 rated center didn't go until the 3rd round in this years draft.

[Guiness]

Wells was a good center but I'm not paying him to be one of the highest centers in the NFL like the Rams did. Hes 33 now and has been injured each season since leaving the Packers.

That has to be making the Rams crazy, I'm surprised they haven't accused the Packers of spiking the dude's drink on his way out the door! Wells missed more time due to injury in 2 seasons in St-Louis than he did all the time he was in Green Bay.

[red]

so finley's quack doctor who sprinkeled some moon dust on him and made him walk counter clockwise for a full day, instead of doing the normal procedure, has now deemed him cured

i'm shocked

still doesn't mean a team will come anywhere near touching him. i think collins has been deemed "fixed" by his doctor too

and like PFT brought up, and most of us know already, he has 10 million reasons to not ever play again. no team is gonna give his broken drop happy ass a huge contract right now, at best he'll get a few million dollar one year "prove you can do it" deal

if its me, i take the 10 million and go plop down on a beach somewhere next to a bar. or buy a bar on a beach

[Brandon494]

if its me, i take the 10 million and go plop down on a beach somewhere next to a bar. or buy a bar on a beach

You mean you wouldn't want to leave in Green Bay?