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MVP debate: Who's most deserving? A.Rodgers - JJ Watt - T.Brady - P.Manning - D.Murray?

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  • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
    My vote has to go to Watt... It's either Watt or Rodgers, but what Watt has done this year is otherworldly.
    Join me in pushing for a MOP award.
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    • Cowboys make case for Romo MVP

      Updated: December 22, 2014, 9:24 AM ET

      By Tim MacMahon | ESPNDallas.com
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      • Aaron Rodgers' performance stirs talk of MVP
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        • Matt Chatham: NFL MVP Discussion Meaningless When Comparing Unlike Things

          by: NESN Staff on Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:54AM
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          • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
            It's more about Romo. It took some time for people to trust that Romo was playing at such a high level. He finished with a higher QBR than Rodgers, which is amazing.
            Romo played well this year...but the reason why his QBR was so high is entirely due to the running game he had this year. That is the difference between this year and all the others where Romo has come up short. So do you give the credit to Romo or Murray?
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            • For all the MVP candidates, they should just judge them by what gifts they gave their teammates.
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              • Don Banks of "Sports Illustrated" said on the wireless that the MVP race is close this year, in his opinion. He mentioned Rodgers, Watt, Romo. I wonder if the chatter is close, but actual vote will be Rodgers landslide. I think Rodgers will get benefit of lifetime achievement.

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                • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                  My vote has to go to Watt... It's either Watt or Rodgers, but what Watt has done this year is otherworldly.
                  I disagree. LT was otherworldly. Watt is dominating...but he also played an incredibly weak, cupcake filled schedule. That isn't otherworldly. Watt isn't getting 20+ sacks back in 1986. He's getting numbers in a much different NFL. LT racked up 3 sacks in both regular season games against the Redskins...who finished 12-4 in 1986 and were an elite team back then who the Giants also had to beat in the NFCC game.

                  Watt racks up 3 sacks twice against the 2014 Jacksonville Jaguars.

                  You tell me Wist. Which is more otherworldly?
                  It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                  • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                    Don Banks of "Sports Illustrated" said on the wireless that the MVP race is close this year, in his opinion. He mentioned Rodgers, Watt, Romo. I wonder if the chatter is close, but actual vote will be Rodgers landslide. I think Rodgers will get benefit of lifetime achievement.
                    I think Watt will get some votes. I doubt either of the Cowboys get much consideration, because they take away from each other. In the end, Rodgers will get more then 50% of the votes and win going away.
                    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                    • Romo doesn't belong in an honest discussion for the MVP. Its Rodgers and Watt, and that decision is really a decision of what the award means.

                      Watt has been much better compared to other defensive lineman than Rodgers has compared to other QB's for sure. But giving the award to a defensive player on a non-playoff team means bending the award more from its literal meaning than has ever been done. Rodgers is worth more towards the goal of winning football games than three JJ Watts. It could happen, Peter Kings said he's splitting his vote.
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                      • Lawrence Taylor changed the way NFL teams draft Left Tackles. He didn't change the game, he changed the front office. Any comparison is null and void.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • I read a mock and Rodgers got ~28 votes, Watt about 20. Seems like it'll be close, but Rodgers will win.

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                          • What has Aaron Rodgers done to screw this up ..... since Week 14?



                            NFL MVP Projection: Aaron Rodgers locked in at No. 1 ..
                            Last edited by woodbuck27; 12-30-2014, 11:21 AM.
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                            • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              Lawrence Taylor changed the way NFL teams draft Left Tackles. He didn't change the game, he changed the front office. Any comparison is null and void.
                              He was the last D player to win MVP I think? That's the comparison. You have to be that good to be an MVP on defense.
                              Originally posted by 3irty1
                              This is museum quality stupidity.

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                              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Lawrence Taylor changed the way NFL teams draft Left Tackles. He didn't change the game, he changed the front office. Any comparison is null and void.
                                That's the inspiration for the book on Oher, isn't it - or the chapter on the left tackles (wait a minute, LT, Lawrence Taylor, Left Tackle .....oooooooo...coincidence or False Flag operation??)

                                Just wondering here - LT and 49ers together got a lot of teams to switch to the short "west coast" passing game. QBs were getting killed by guys like LT and then Reggie White. Watt isn't changing the game, he's just having a good season.
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