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Even if he can run, which isn't a given, I don't think he'd be good for anything but fly routes. We need somebody who can at least run the full route tree.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostI have no doubt he still requires a double team on a deep route. Send him deep play after play - just save those legs for December.
He may not run a 4.2 anymore, but I bet he can still our best deep threat.Go PACK
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I doubt Cobb will draw double teams. Either Adams, Montgomery or even Janis will play the role of a playmaker. With playing time, one of those guys may surprise. I don't think the team really has a clear "#1 receiver" now, nobody with the combo of deep speed and route running talent. But they have three guys who are good enough for Rodgers. I don't mean to sell Cobb short, he is excellent, just not tall and fast enough to be the stud deep threat.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostTeams will probably double-team Cobb more now. It will be up to the other receivers to make plays against single coverage. Adams and R.Rodgers need to step up. The Packers draft-and-develop strategy is in part to deal with situations like this. It will get a good test.
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He might be a good red zone threat. We'll see what the Packers decide. They don't often do what only helps in the short-term. It's possible Jones could perform well and latch on again, but if it's just for one year then which prospect (who they have any hope for) would you be OK seeing released to make room for Jones?Originally posted by Bossman641 View PostEven if he can run, which isn't a given, I don't think he'd be good for anything but fly routes. We need somebody who can at least run the full route tree."Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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Why would the Giants cut him if he is that good? Just curious.Originally posted by Rutnstrut View PostIf James Jones got cut by the Giants, I'd take him in a heartbeat over White.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn !Originally posted by Carolina_Packer View Postwhich prospect (who they have any hope for) would you be OK seeing released to make room for Jones?
I've become a Kuhn troll only because somebody has to do it. During the game, I had him cut in favor of Alonzo Harris. The Kuhn Platoon was quick to point-out Harris's hands o' stone when he had a drop.
Kuhn has declined. He regularly caught around 15 balls per season in his career. Last year he had 4. So he's not a pass weapon anymore. I thought he looked pretty plodding last season.
I am really engaged in wishful thinking. I'm hoping that Harris, or one of those TEs, will manage to be an upgrade over Kuhn. Maybe they are not, I'm no scout.
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I disagree, respectfully, of course.Originally posted by Bossman641 View PostEven if he can run, which isn't a given, I don't think he'd be good for anything but fly routes. We need somebody who can at least run the full route tree.
Cobb is the quick-twitch guy who catches the short stuff and works the middle of the field. One could argue that Montgomery is very similar. Cobb could arguably be a deep threat too, but we haven't seen that to this point, thus there isn't any evidence.
Adams is a big posession guy who can battle in traffic but doesn't have deep speed.
Teams are gonna crowd the box if you don't have a deep threat. The Packers don't right now.
They need someone who can get deep and keep the middle of the field open for their playmakers to accumulate YAC. Moss is the perfect guy for that. Run that guy deep play after play.
I have my doubts that too many corners can cover him deep one-on-one even if he was 45-50. He is just too freaky.
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Yeah, they very well may keep more WRs now. Make some room elsewhere, but that weakness another area, making the loss of Jordy even more painful.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostKuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn !
I've become a Kuhn troll only because somebody has to do it. During the game, I had him cut in favor of Alonzo Harris. The Kuhn Platoon was quick to point-out Harris's hands o' stone when he had a drop.
Kuhn has declined. He regularly caught around 15 balls per season in his career. Last year he had 4. So he's not a pass weapon anymore. I thought he looked pretty plodding last season.
I am really engaged in wishful thinking. I'm hoping that Harris, or one of those TEs, will manage to be an upgrade over Kuhn. Maybe they are not, I'm no scout.
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Packers have a press release that it was Nelson's right knee (not the one he landed on first) that has a "significant injury". Out for the year officially.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Next man up. We have a very deep WR Corp. Jordy was not the guy to take the top off the defense anyway. Lacy running for 1200 yards will open play action enough. Adams and Cobb will do just fine.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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Hard to believe watching the replay it's not his left knee. http://www.packers.com/media-center/...c-6de484949390Originally posted by pbmax View PostPackers have a press release that it was Nelson's right knee (not the one he landed on first) that has a "significant injury". Out for the year officially.
http://www.packers.com/news-and-even...0-75609d3acfbeI can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Yeah, I think the PR guys are busy taking selfies and have lost the ability to know left from right and the mirror effect.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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They won't. Jones had 5 catches for 83 yards Saturday. Victor Cruz and Reuben Randle have both been banged up. Right now Jones is listed on the depth chart as the backup to Cruz.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostWhy would the Giants cut him if he is that good? Just curious.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Idle speculation: could Jordy's offseason hip surgery be related to the china doll knee injury?
I wonder about that, because I see a lot of people who get hip replacement surgery develop knee problems. You change the body mechanics just a bit, and other areas are prone to overuse and strain. I wouldn't be surprised if Jordy was a bit out-of-kilter, he was down all spring.
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