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  • #76
    Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    Simplified version:

    Guy should be a virtual unknown prior to the start of the regular season.
    Selection based upon quality of play relative to expectations.
    Well, there are known unknowns. There are unknown unknowns. There are unknown knowns.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #77

      Hundley projects Backman as a FD honoree, "He's going to show the world his talents this week."
      Game on.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
        Everyone was predicting James Jones would resign with the Pack if he got cut by the Giants. He did. Everyone expected that. How does him getting cut by two teams--one the Raiders and one with a deep, young WR bench--turn him into a scrub? If he was a scrub, no one would want him.

        James Jones by virtue of either of his career success or his expected signing and contribution is ineligible.
        The real irony is lately the Gmen were trying out WRs with Hicks out so perhaps their WR corps wasn't as deep as they believed? Thanks NY!!

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        • #79
          Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
          Name recognition seems to be important from the origin of the award. JJ has a lot of name recognition, it is from his performances in past years, but it is still there.

          Let's keep this as simple as possible, so I propose the following guidelines (they can be ignored in special cases):

          1. No high draft picks absent extenuating circumstances. Maybe, 4th round and lower.
          2. Nobody that has had significant time as a starter in prior years.

          Criteria that are to be considered:
          1. How unknown they are to the average football fan.
          2. Their level of their play any given week.
          3. How long they have been with the team (recent pickups get extra points).
          4. Other considerations that make their success unexpected and noteworthy (e.g., poor combine numbers; lack of college credentials).
          Maybe one player worthy of the award against the Chiefs is Palmer?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Pugger View Post
            Maybe one player worthy of the award against the Chiefs is Palmer?
            Absolutely. I think Thomas' story for that week is pretty good though. Going from cut by the Pack, to being snagged off the Dallas practice squad, to a prominent role is a pretty good Fuckdoggle story. In comparison, Palmer had played in prior games, making him slightly less of an unknown.

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            • #81
              So how many times can a player get Fuckdoggle award? I'd say after 3, the guy is a player not just a Fuckdoggle.
              2025 Ratpickers champion.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                So how many times can a player get Fuckdoggle award? I'd say after 3, the guy is a player not just a Fuckdoggle.
                Good point. My suggestion is to take it into consideration when determining, but not have a hard rule. For example, what if Thomas were to win a three times with solid performances early in the year, but then he gets benched because someone else gets healthy. If, several weeks later, he gets inserted due to injury and is the MVP of the game, I think he could win a 4th.

                Basically, we should give a lot of credit for players that do well in their first big chance, and less credit as they get more established.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                  Bears fans know exactly who he is. He was one of many receivers roasting them over the years.

                  Also, I would like to add that Jones is ineligible for yet another reason: he led the NFL in receiving TDs one year. Everyone knows who he is.
                  Not to mention, wasn't it against the Bears that he dropped a pass and gift wrapped a game for them? I seem to have that distinct memory.
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                  Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                  • #84
                    May I assume that if Thomas wins the NFL Defensive Player of the week for several weeks, he is no longer an eligible Fuckdoggle?
                    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                      May I assume that if Thomas wins the NFL Defensive Player of the week for several weeks, he is no longer an eligible Fuckdoggle?
                      Yeah, but he would still be eligible to win the year-end Fuckdoggle award.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                        Yeah, but he would still be eligible to win the year-end Fuckdoggle award.
                        You mean like "Fuckdoggle of the Year?" Wouldn't that kind of be contrary to the spirit of the Fuckdoggle? You would think the Fuckdoggle of the Year trophy would be won by a player who was a complete scrub until maybe performing lights out in the playoffs or Super Bowl...like Starks in 2010.
                        One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                        John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                        • #87
                          Can more than one Fuckdoggle be given for a game? I'm thinking back to the SB where both Howard Green and Jarrett Bush were worthy.
                          2025 Ratpickers champion.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                            You mean like "Fuckdoggle of the Year?" Wouldn't that kind of be contrary to the spirit of the Fuckdoggle? You would think the Fuckdoggle of the Year trophy would be won by a player who was a complete scrub until maybe performing lights out in the playoffs or Super Bowl...like Starks in 2010.
                            Fuckdoggle of the Month makes more sense. Enough time to show a trend, but not so much time that he establishes himself.
                            No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                              You mean like "Fuckdoggle of the Year?" Wouldn't that kind of be contrary to the spirit of the Fuckdoggle? You would think the Fuckdoggle of the Year trophy would be won by a player who was a complete scrub until maybe performing lights out in the playoffs or Super Bowl...like Starks in 2010.
                              It depends on how you look at it. While players will lose their Fuckdoggle status during the year, they may still be the best example of a Fuckdoggle during the year. So the criteria could be looking at all the players that came out of nowhere for the year, which one performed at a level that is most surprising?

                              Starks would have won the playoff and Superbowl Most-Valuable-Fuckdoggle award, which I would argue is different from the year end.

                              Wow, this is really going far down the rabbit hole.
                              Last edited by sharpe1027; 10-02-2015, 11:52 AM.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                                Can more than one Fuckdoggle be given for a game? I'm thinking back to the SB where both Howard Green and Jarrett Bush were worthy.
                                In that situation, maybe we should try to select the best one for the award, but there could be ties.

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