Is Aaron Rodgers more of the problem than we might think?

[gbgary]

Young WR: Why was there a second offense? Was it because Rodgers was simply willful or did it solve a problem with M3's offense?

Freelancing: Not sure what you mean but if extended offense, it was the only move that bailed the offense out of its 2015 slump. Still took a very good player (heathy Cook) to make it work.

Throwaways: If after skipping shorter quicker throw, then someone will have to demonstrate a quicker, shorter passing attack works and Rodgers will have to give it a shot. M3's usually did not survive contact with a good defense that could do more than one thing well. The short passing game was more bubble screens that I ever care to witness again.


But put all that aside, its the coach's job to get players to believe in his vision for the game. Same goes with the QB.

sorry. my comments were about rodgers numbers in general since 2015. the o gradually got worse as time went on. it was on everyone involved.

[gbgary]

Trevor Davis is having a good offseason and camp. If Spriggs would get his act together, (if he has one) that 2016 draft could rank up there with TT's best. The 2017 draft with King, Josh Jones, Mt. Adams, Jamaal Williams and Aaron Jones still has a chance to be pretty good. It was the 2014 and 2015 drafts that blew the roster apart.

but who was really doing the drafting then? TT was already into his decline then. i read somewhere that murphy and ball, along with others, pretty much did the 17 draft.

[gbgary]

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[Joemailman]

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Not a big deal. They don't have to agree on everything as long as they can work together. What Florio doesn't mention is that in the same interview Rodgers talked about how much he likes LaFleur's offense. Just an oversight I'm sure. Rodgers' biggest problem with the practices against Houston is that he feels it took away from continuing to develop their familiarity with the new offense. 2 wasted practices in his opinion. I'm sure Rodgers also wasn't happy that 2 receivers (Davis, Sternberger) suffered injuries that probably wouldn't have happened in a Packers-only practice.

[RashanGary]

Not a big deal. They don't have to agree on everything as long as they can work together. What Florio doesn't mention is that in the same interview Rodgers talked about how much he likes LaFleur's offense. Just an oversight I'm sure. Rodgers' biggest problem with the practices against Houston is that he feels it took away from continuing to develop their familiarity with the new offense. 2 wasted practices in his opinion. I'm sure Rodgers also wasn't happy that 2 receivers (Davis, Sternberger) suffered injuries that probably wouldn't have happened in a Packers-only practice.

Lafleur is focused on developing offense, defense, special teams. The physical work was important for evaluating parts of the roster. Lafleur was excited because a lot of good work was done for the TEAM and Rodgers perspective comes from a place of how it affects himself. The positive is how maniacally invested Rodgers is in the offense. The downside is, his passion leads to wearing blinders that end up making him self serving and self centered, not so helpful to the TEAM. But if Lafleur holds his ground and puts the team above Rodgers, all will be well. A conversation between the two might help, but at the end of the day, if AR doesn’t like it, hopefully that’s just too bad for Aaron.

[gbgary]

Lafleur is focused on developing offense, defense, special teams. The physical work was important for evaluating parts of the roster. Lafleur was excited because a lot of good work was done for the TEAM and Rodgers perspective comes from a place of how it affects himself. The positive is how maniacally invested Rodgers is in the offense. The downside is, his passion leads to wearing blinders that end up making him self serving and self centered, not so helpful to the TEAM. But if Lafleur holds his ground and puts the team above Rodgers, all will be well. A conversation between the two might help, but at the end of the day, if AR doesn’t like it, hopefully that’s just too bad for Aaron.

this!

[Cobra Kai]

Not a big deal. They don't have to agree on everything as long as they can work together. What Florio doesn't mention is that in the same interview Rodgers talked about how much he likes LaFleur's offense. Just an oversight I'm sure. Rodgers' biggest problem with the practices against Houston is that he feels it took away from continuing to develop their familiarity with the new offense. 2 wasted practices in his opinion. I'm sure Rodgers also wasn't happy that 2 receivers (Davis, Sternberger) suffered injuries that probably wouldn't have happened in a Packers-only practice.

That is typical Florio. He loves to bend the truth to fit HIS narrative. Most of his articles are hit pieces and Rodgers is one of his favorite targets. Remember when Rodgers didn't sign the cancer lady's pink hat after returning from beating Atlanta during the Superbowl run. You'd think Rodgers punched her after reading Florio's article.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/16/aaron-rodgers-has-a-lot-to-learn-about-where-his-money-comes-from/

[Joemailman]

Lafleur is focused on developing offense, defense, special teams. The physical work was important for evaluating parts of the roster. Lafleur was excited because a lot of good work was done for the TEAM and Rodgers perspective comes from a place of how it affects himself. The positive is how maniacally invested Rodgers is in the offense. The downside is, his passion leads to wearing blinders that end up making him self serving and self centered, not so helpful to the TEAM. But if Lafleur holds his ground and puts the team above Rodgers, all will be well. A conversation between the two might help, but at the end of the day, if AR doesn’t like it, hopefully that’s just too bad for Aaron.

I don't think there's anything self centered about what Rodgers said. He's wearing a red jersey. He knows he's not getting hit. However, the biggest challenge this team faces right now is learning and developing the offense. Rodgers saw this as 2 wasted practices. While he may be wrong, I think his opposition was team focused. This will be an issue that people will talk about for a few days, to be forgotten once they return to a regular practice.

[Radagast]

No there is no "Rodgers Problem", but there are sports reporters trying to make a name for themselves.

[gbgary]

the media didn't create this. rodgers did. he should've given a benign answer to the question or not answered at all. he knows exactly what he's doing.

[mraynrand]

the media didn't create this. rodgers did. he should've given a benign answer to the question or not answered at all. he knows exactly what he's doing.

Maybe some locals can just kick the shit out of him and we can be done with this conversation?


One night, me with my big mouth
A couple guys had to put me in my place
When I see those guys these days
We just laugh and say, "Do you remember when?"
That's when a smoke was a smoke
And groovin' was groovin'

[texaspackerbacker]

No there is no "Rodgers Problem", but there are sports reporters trying to make a name for themselves.

+ 1

[QBME]

Maybe some locals can just kick the shit out of him and we can be done with this conversation?


One night, me with my big mouth
A couple guys had to put me in my place
When I see those guys these days
We just laugh and say, "Do you remember when?"
That's when a smoke was a smoke
And groovin' was groovin'

And dancin' meant everthing...

[pbmax]

Not a big deal. They don't have to agree on everything as long as they can work together. What Florio doesn't mention is that in the same interview Rodgers talked about how much he likes LaFleur's offense. Just an oversight I'm sure. Rodgers' biggest problem with the practices against Houston is that he feels it took away from continuing to develop their familiarity with the new offense. 2 wasted practices in his opinion. I'm sure Rodgers also wasn't happy that 2 receivers (Davis, Sternberger) suffered injuries that probably wouldn't have happened in a Packers-only practice.

He also basically called the near-live kickoff practice dumb. Florio is furiously humping this for all its worth, but there was a definite critique in there.

Will be interesting to see if ST come out firing better this year.

[gbgary]

this isn't media spin. rodgers says things that are black and white...not gray that can be misinterpreted and/or spun. he also has a history that can't be ignored. his passive-aggressive behavior created, and continues to plays into, the narrative, and some just want to gloss over it and pretend it hasn't affected things in the past, or could in the present or future. he's a brilliant QB. to this point probably the best all-time statistically. a day-1, ballet-1, HOF'er...but i prefer my QB to be team-before-self in all things and wish he was more like that. he's not like that though. i can accept it...but i don't have to like it. i also don't like the fact the Packers have enabled it in the past. i thought MLF handled the question from aaron nagler well...that rodgers is one man and doesn't have to like it for it to happen anyway for the good of the team and coaches. he then agreed with a rodgers point. rodgers has said he likes the new O...but. there's a power struggle happening whether some see it or not. for the good of the team, i hope MLF prevails.

Maybe some locals can just kick the shit out of him and we can be done with this conversation?

it'll be done soon enough...until the next time rodgers can't bite his tongue.