Official Fire Mike McCarthy Thread

[wist43]

you thought the solution was to get rid of Dom Capers

Hmmm....were you wrong ?

Getting rid of Capers was certainly part of the solution - never thought getting rid of him was a cure all.

After Capers, I would say the organization's cluelessness in how to evaluate defensive players and build a defense is the next biggest problem. I think they need to take a serious look at the scouting dept, and overhaul it.

That said, Stubby is looking more and more like a dinosaur when it comes to offense, and it seems to have finally gotten to the point where the players have lost faith him. Once that happens, it's over.

[mraynrand]

I want to see Stubby get fired, get hired by Cleveland, and watch Randall's head explode.

[pbmax]

Capers looked lights out for two years. Let's give Pettine at least 4 before we pass judgement on the difference.

[wist43]

Capers looked lights out for two years. Let's give Pettine at least 4 before we pass judgement on the difference.

We're better on defense this year than the last 6-7 years... don't think there's much debate about that.

That said, I think the DL has regressed a bit, that's not Pettine's fault; and the LBing Corp is even worse this year than last b/c Clay has fallen off more, and the rest of the guys stink. Gilbert is probably our best pass rusher.

The back end is certainly better... Randall and Burnett being gone helps, and the rookies have been pretty good, although a work in progress.

Tough to have a dominant defense though when your LBers are so bad.

[pbmax]

We're better on defense this year than the last 6-7 years... don't think there's much debate about that.

That said, I think the DL has regressed a bit, that's not Pettine's fault; and the LBing Corp is even worse this year than last b/c Clay has fallen off more, and the rest of the guys stink. Gilbert is probably our best pass rusher.

The back end is certainly better... Randall and Burnett being gone helps, and the rookies have been pretty good, although a work in progress.

Tough to have a dominant defense though when your LBers are so bad.

Repeating things is an effective way to hypnotize yourself. Source is Pro Football References Simple Rating System (SRS).

                                                           
                                       Poin Poin Poin  Simp
Year     Lg                 Tm  W  L T   PF   PA   PD  DSRS
2018    NFL  Green Bay Packers  2  2 1  115  114    1  -1.1
2017    NFL  Green Bay Packers  7  9 0  320  384  -64  -1.6
2016    NFL Green Bay Packers* 10  6 0  432  388   44  -2.0
[B]2015    NFL Green Bay Packers* 10  6 0  368  323   45   3.3[/B]
[B]2014    NFL Green Bay Packers* 12  4 0  486  348  138   0.4[/B]
2013    NFL Green Bay Packers*  8  7 1  417  428  -11  -3.6
[B]2012    NFL Green Bay Packers* 11  5 0  433  336   97   2.4[/B]
[B]2011    NFL Green Bay Packers* 15  1 0  560  359  201  -0.1[/B]
[B]2010    NFL Green Bay Packers* 10  6 0  388  240  148   7.9[/B]
[B]2009    NFL Green Bay Packers* 11  5 0  461  297  164   1.1[/B]

6 out of 10 years Capers had a better rated defense, including 4 since the Super Bowl (covers 6 years of Capers D)

Pettine has injected some good looks and they have dominated a couple of halves, but its far from a proven case.

[pbmax]

Football Outsiders has two of the last six Capers seasons as better by rank, and three of six better by score:

2018 13th  0.0
2017 20th  4.9
2016 20th  2.5
[B]2015 9th[/B]  -7.3
[B]2014 16th -1.0[/B]
2013 31st 14.4
[B]2012 8th[/B]  -7.0
2011 25th  8.6

Negative is a better score for defense.

The overall point being that we do not know yet if Pettine is the guy to lead the or, like Capers, his first year or two is effective especially due to it being fresh out of the box.

[wist43]

I agree we don't know what we have with Pettine, but we sure as shit knew Capers sucked.

Everything is relative... different opponents, different players, different scheme, different rules...

As the official excuse maker, and man-love guy for Capers though, it's understandable why you would miss the good ol days

[ThunderDan]

My biggest concern about MM is we have come out of the gates flat in at least half of the games this year.

[ThunderDan]

Wrong thread.

[mraynrand]

My biggest concern about MM is we have come out of the gates flat in at least half of the games this year.

yep

[wist43]

Wanted to get this most important thread to the top....

Fire Stubby!!!!

Had enough of him.

[pbmax]

I agree we don't know what we have with Pettine, but we sure as shit knew Capers sucked.

Everything is relative... different opponents, different players, different scheme, different rules...

As the official excuse maker, and man-love guy for Capers though, it's understandable why you would miss the good ol days

What do you think about tonight? San Fran doesn't have the talent to do that to a good defense. But they shut it down in the 2nd half.

Did Pettine's contract not specify that he be allowed to watch opponent film?

[Freak Out]

Why the hell did Stubby not call for the FG with 8 minutes left in the 4th qtr? Mason was on again. WTF?

[wist43]

What do you think about tonight? San Fran doesn't have the talent to do that to a good defense. But they shut it down in the 2nd half.

Did Pettine's contract not specify that he be allowed to watch opponent film?

If was horrific... there's no excuse for what Pettine did last night. The players were terrible, and so was the coaching. As bad as Pettine was, Stubby was probably worse.

The team has become a train wreck under McCarthy.

[pbmax]

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/1052270732691017737

Ryan Grant on practice time devoted to running game in Washington under Shanahans versus GB. This would be 2012.