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Is Aaron Rodgers even good anymore?
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I’d like to see that for Rodgers too.Originally posted by Zool View PostWill be interesting to see him with 2 pro bowl level WRs and a TE who is close to that level.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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The flaw in football outsiders is that it can't, like most statistical systems, differentiate between factors such as quality of receivers or quality of pass protection, but they both had good pass protection and bad receiving situations in '19.
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You are assuredly a better golfer than I, but I think I can give you a run in your current profession.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostYeah, I use to play professional golf and played a few Nike Tour events back in the day. Now, I could only make the professional Brandy Old Fashion drinking team.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Ryan Fitzpatrick and Derek Carr were top 10 QBs in the NFL last year according to QBR.
I think Rodgers, Brees, and Brady have fallen off. Brady fell off the most last year. I know Brees and Rodgers still have the gaudy TD/INT ratios, but Brees doesn't look nearly as good to me anymore. He completed 81 balls to Kamara and 149 balls to Thomas (at under 12 yards/reception). He mostly dinks and dunks. Rich man's Kirk Cousins.
Wilson is clearly the best in the NFC. Brees and Rodgers would still have to be in the conversation at #2. I feel bad for Stafford. Put him on a good team and he'd be considered up there. I might take Wentz #2, if I knew he'd stay healthy. He willed a Philly team--that lost literally all of its receivers--to the playoffs. He was throwing to Greg Ward and Josh Perkins at the end of the year. Felt bad when he took that cheap shot from Clowney."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Agree about both Wilson and Brees. Part of the reason that the Saints did not fall off much with Bridge Over Trouble Waters is that Brees isn't quite the difference maker he was.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostRyan Fitzpatrick and Derek Carr were top 10 QBs in the NFL last year according to QBR.
I think Rodgers, Brees, and Brady have fallen off. Brady fell off the most last year. I know Brees and Rodgers still have the gaudy TD/INT ratios, but Brees doesn't look nearly as good to me anymore. He completed 81 balls to Kamara and 149 balls to Thomas (at under 12 yards/reception). He mostly dinks and dunks. Rich man's Kirk Cousins.
Wilson is clearly the best in the NFC. Brees and Rodgers would still have to be in the conversation at #2. I feel bad for Stafford. Put him on a good team and he'd be considered up there. I might take Wentz #2, if I knew he'd stay healthy. He willed a Philly team--that lost literally all of its receivers--to the playoffs. He was throwing to Greg Ward and Josh Perkins at the end of the year. Felt bad when he took that cheap shot from Clowney.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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FIFY. And I concur. But that also adjusted to a very conservative run oriented offense that worked for them.Originally posted by pbmax View PostAgree about both Wilson and Brees. Part of the reason that the Saints did not fall off much with Bridge Over Teddy Waters is that Brees isn't quite the difference maker he was.
Wilson was the NFC MVP. That Seattle team is garbage without him. And he is tremendously fun to watch (Except against the Packers)."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Par for the course with the Packers. They can handle good QBs if they can outscore them.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostFIFY. And I concur. But that also adjusted to a very conservative run oriented offense that worked for them.
Wilson was the NFC MVP. That Seattle team is garbage without him. And he is tremendously fun to watch (Except against the Packers).
Part of the Rodgers discussion is funny. But part of it is ludicrous. After 10 years of drafting mainly defense, Packers still can't stop a team that can run and pass.
But the offense is always Top 10 despite the neglect.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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You must be listening to the Pornhub Sirius/XM station. ESPNWisconsin is much more vanilla.Originally posted by MadtownPacker View PostDid he bust out the BBC on them?Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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