Is Aaron Rodgers even good anymore?

[gbgary]

Pass protection or Rodgers?

https://twitter.com/SconnieSports/status/1067278342649458689

I think pass protection.

Rodgers. it's not like Rodgers doesn't know Graham's route before the play even starts, or doesn't see him, or physically couldn't make that throw. this was a mental mistake. that's why i say he's not 100% mentally. he's got injury on his mind, he's got that stupid trustworthiness thing on his mind, and whatever else.

[Joemailman]

It's because his foot work is garbage right now.

Agreed. Either the knee is bothering him, or he got into some bad habits when it was an issue. Maybe he could hire MM as his personal coach and work out the problems in the offseason.

[mraynrand]

Agreed. Either the knee is bothering him, or he got into some bad habits when it was an issue. Maybe he could hire MM as his personal coach and work out the problems in the offseason.

That offseason workout with Alex Smith and Cutler is gonna be lit.

[yetisnowman]

I get the criticism, but I'd like to know which of his bad throws went five yards. The one in the dirt on the flat route went 15-20 yards sideways.

I was just sort of speaking flippantly. It was a pass 5 yards forward and whatever 12-15 yards laterally. However you wanna slice it, clear line of sight , quick, easy ass throw. I can make that throw probably 97% of the time, at least get to receivers hands. His throw to ESB in Seattle was even easier. It's as bad of a throw an NFL QB can make and he did it 2 weeks in a row in critical spots. You want to split hairs and say it's not a duck ok. It's garbage is what it is. Inexcuseable.

[yetisnowman]

Pass protection or Rodgers?

https://twitter.com/SconnieSports/status/1067278342649458689

I think pass protection. Graham has to clear Barr to be open, he's not immediately open. Rodgers has to hop out of the way as Linsley and Bell barely get the stunt blocked. But he knows if he jumps inside Bualga's guy is going to be free, so he's going to run to clear him. But stunt guy #2 is there as well.

The blocking sucked but he had a giant , wide open target right in his line of sight. It's the NFL there's dudes gonna a million miles a minute in every direction. It's simply a a play Aaron has to make.

[mraynrand]

I was just sort of speaking flippantly. It was a pass 5 yards forward and whatever 12-15 yards laterally.

People use their high school geometry here. Get used to it.

I don't want to live in a world where people don't bring high school mathematics into casual sports talk.

[Carolina_Packer]

[pbmax]

It looks like he is about to reset to fire for a split second too but then feels Hunter caving the other side.

There was the briefest of moments for a flip to Graham and we've seen Rodgers make those plays in the past but it's not happening enough this year.

I believe this is exactly the case. He is a split second slower and his one is a full second worse.

[pbmax]

Rodgers. it's not like Rodgers doesn't know Graham's route before the play even starts, or doesn't see him, or physically couldn't make that throw. this was a mental mistake. that's why i say he's not 100% mentally. he's got injury on his mind, he's got that stupid trustworthiness thing on his mind, and whatever else.

If he stands there to throw to Graham after he's by Barr he is going down unless he just lobs a jump pass to the right.

Its terrible pass pro. Rodgers used to have no pocket presence and we've seen him bail way too early. This is not that.

[pbmax]

Somewhere on Twitter is a screen cap (2 of them) where Williams appears open on 3rd an 1. From the behind LOS cam, there is a Mike LB standing in the way. If someone can find them, I would appreciate it.

[pbmax]

Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt

ANY/A - adjusted net yards per passing attempt: (pass yards + 20*(pass TD) - 45*(interceptions thrown) - sack yards)/(passing attempts + sacks). See AY/A. Note that we are now using 20 yards per TD instead of 10, because of research by Chase Stuart at the p-f-r blog.

[denverYooper]

Football Outsiders has the Packers' O as 5th in DVOA, surprisingly enough.

[Joemailman]

Football Outsiders has the Packers' O as 5th in DVOA, surprisingly enough.

Packers passing DVOA ranks 9th and rushing DVOA ranks 2nd. Yet Packers are 7th in passing attempts and 30th in rushing attempts. A team not playing to its strengths?

[pbmax]

Packers passing DVOA ranks 9th and rushing DVOA ranks 2nd. Yet Packers are 7th in passing attempts and 30th in rushing attempts. A team not playing to its strengths?

Yes, but that might be about 5-7 plays a game. I think a more important set of plays are situational football, 3rd down and medium to short plus red zone.

[pbmax]

Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt

So that definition for ANY/A is legit but I am not sure what the value he is calculating here. Might be yards over average performance, but unsure.