More Banjo: Week 12 @ Minnesota

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Will Blackmon @WillBlackmon
When I was on the packers in 2008 We lost 4 straight road games. Every time we lost Coach McCarthy made sure each hotel got worse.

He said “If you want to stay in a nice hotel, WIN A DAMN GAME”
One hotel in Jax I swear was on First 48. ��

cc: @89JonesNTAF @CharlesWoodson

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Brian Burke @bburkeESPN
Friendly reminder that GB punted on 4 yds to go at the +41 with 3 min left in the 1st half. 31 yd punt.

Brian Burke @bburkeESPN
Foresight can be pretty good too, Max. My model said it was a -2.5% WP error... before the play.

PFTCommenter @PFTCommenter
the analystics say you go for it there but they also said Mike Mccarthy should of been fired 3 years ago so u never realy know when it comes to math

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Anyone think they should have kicked away?

Aaron Schatz @FO_ASchatz
There's one other interesting strategic decision in this game. With one timeout + TMW, why did Packers choose to onside kick instead of kicking away? Most readers responding to my tweet about fourth-and-1 thought the Packers kicked a FG specifically to avoid an onside kick.

Patrick Daugherty @RotoPat
The Packers are the Bengals + Aaron Rodgers

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Worst GIF ever.

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John E. C @johnnyc1952
Scene: Craig Counsell, Budenholzer, and McCarthy having dinner

CC: "I relied on the strength of my pen and revolutionized how pitchers are used."

Bud: "Nice! I realized long 2s are dumb and points in the paint and 3s are the way to go. How bout you Mike?"

MM: "I like eggs."

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Bach is definitely a knee injury.

Brice with ankle and then concussion eval. Did he come back in after that hit?

Lane Taylor with a Quad-rophenia injury.

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PB are you on the Fire MM bandwagon?

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Anyone think they should have kicked away?

If you absolutely HAVE to get a 3-and-out, you NEVER kick away. The onside kick gives you a second chance to get the ball back. If you can allow a first down, then it depends on the score and whether a first down and a FG can kill you.

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If you absolutely HAVE to get a 3-and-out, you NEVER kick away. The onside kick gives you a second chance to get the ball back. If you can allow a first down, then it depends on the score and whether a first down and a FG can kill you.

But odds of a 3 and out, while paltry, look positively radiant compared with the odds of recovering an expected onside kick.

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PB are you on the Fire MM bandwagon?

Yep. Its not all him, but he isn't helping at all. He has needed to adjust his offense since 2015 and hasn't done it.

A new offense wil help reset Rodgers.

But if you blame Rodgers first, then the following are also sufficient reasons

1. Way too eager to keep mediocre coaches around
2. Terrible game and clock management
3. Terrible at adjusting on defense to allow young players to succeed
4. God awful special teams despite A LOT of attention to the talent
5. Refusal to update his offense
6. Game plan past the first 15 plays is a catastrophe
7. I think the red zone and 3rd down D are symptomatic of the rest of the offensive disfunction

That said, all these should be fixable. He is a good leader of men. He keeps the team focused. His winning, despite his shortcomings, is impressive.

But the team cannot go forward from here with him at a standstill.

But be forewarned, the odds of getting a better coach on the first try are about 30%.

I might prefer insisting he update the O, hire a game manager to tell him when to go on 4th down, when to challenge, when to call TO and hire a ST coach who will tell the HC when they will practice ST and how they will practice special teams. However, the odds are 0 the he accepts any of that.

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Bach is definitely a knee injury.

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2 knee injuries

they said that he was having both knees worked on during the game before he took himself out

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But odds of a 3 and out, while paltry, look positively radiant compared with the odds of recovering an expected onside kick.

Of course, but the odds of getting the ball back are higher with an onside kick attempt AND a chance at a three and out.

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But odds of a 3 and out, while paltry, look positively radiant compared with the odds of recovering an expected onside kick.

once we finally got the ball back, down 2 scores are chances of winning were almost nil

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Yep. Its not all him, but he isn't helping at all. He has needed to adjust his offense since 2015 and hasn't done it.

A new offense wil help reset Rodgers.

A speedy receiver like Davis or Scantron running L-R or R-L might be open or cause some issues for Viking coverages. But I don't think anything like that was tried. But those 40 yard lobs on 3rd and 7 looked great, didn't they?