More Banjo: Week 12 @ Minnesota

[pbmax]

I disagree. Without Rodgers playing god like football, stubby is a mediocre at best coach.

Rodgers wasn't a god for all of the 2010 playoffs. He has carried the team into this slow decline period, but its not been all him.

[Fritz]

I don't think McCarthy is terrible, but I think there is something to the "staleness" argument - he's just been here so long that Rodgers seems to have tuned him out, and his attempts to revamp the offense or defense have to do with re-hiring old coaches like Philbin or (finally) firing a defensive coordinator who'd himself gone stale.

I think MM could do very well in a new situation with a young QB or an older QB who thinks he can be coached up.

[pbmax]

Rodgers wasn't a god for all of the 2010 playoffs. He has carried the team into this slow decline period, but its not been all him.

Holy cow was this poor phrased.

Rodgers was not God-like in the 2010 playoffs except versus Atlanta.

But he did carry the offense in the past Super Bowl era.

McCarthy developed him and got him to the Super Bowl. He deserves a lot of the credit. But he deserves a fair share of the shortcomings that were evident later.

You can't go to the playoffs 8 years in a row and have a decided talent advantage at the end.

[bobblehead]

Holy cow was this poor phrased.

Rodgers was not God-like in the 2010 playoffs except versus Atlanta.

But he did carry the offense in the past Super Bowl era.

McCarthy developed him and got him to the Super Bowl. He deserves a lot of the credit. But he deserves a fair share of the shortcomings that were evident later.

You can't go to the playoffs 8 years in a row and have a decided talent advantage at the end.

I agree about the 8 years in the playoffs hurting draft position, but I think that is over stated at times. There have been many unforced errors. Not drafting Watt. Drafting CB for need with randall rollins. Not resigning hayward or Hyde. Not recognizing best position of hyde/randall. Not utilizing the unique skill set of Monty. Not ever using a TE correctly.

If we had done 2 things properly above how much different might this team look? And its not like "wow, no one could have predicted hayward and hyde had talent. Wow, no one though Watt would be a good pro. Wow, using a former WR turned RB primarily to pass block is epically stupid.

[Smidgeon]

I agree about the 8 years in the playoffs hurting draft position, but I think that is over stated at times. There have been many unforced errors. Not drafting Watt. Drafting CB for need with randall rollins. Not resigning hayward or Hyde. Not recognizing best position of hyde/randall. Not utilizing the unique skill set of Monty. Not ever using a TE correctly.

If we had done 2 things properly above how much different might this team look? And its not like "wow, no one could have predicted hayward and hyde had talent. Wow, no one though Watt would be a good pro. Wow, not using a former WR turned RB as a route runner out of the backfield is epically stupid.

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[Joemailman]

FIFY

Yep. I was really excited about the possibilities of having Monty lining up in the backfield. Force teams to play dime and run the ball, or use him as a receiver if teams play base defense. Turned out to be a dud.

[pbmax]

Aaron Nagler @AaronNagler
McCarthy rules out Trevor Davis for the Cardinals game.

[denverYooper]

Packer Leg strikes again!

[pbmax]

Yep. I was really excited about the possibilities of having Monty lining up in the backfield. Force teams to play dime and run the ball, or use him as a receiver if teams play base defense. Turned out to be a dud.

Its ironic that the pass happy coach sticks a RB back there on passing downs to block and then to run and then, maybe, if nothing else is going, catch a pass.

[Bossman641]

Are King and Cobb ever going to play again?

[pbmax]

Are King and Cobb ever going to play again?

Yes and not for the Packers.

[Pugger]

Yes and not for the Packers.

Cobb might be gone but I doubt they'll give up on King right now.

[pbmax]

Cobb might be gone but I doubt they'll give up on King right now.

Should have put respectively, as in, yes for King and some other team for Cobb.

[texaspackerbacker]

There's still reason to hope King will have a bright future with the Packers. As for Cobb, the Packers are better off without him. If he is in the game, somebody better is sitting on the bench.