First Round Pick 2019, Rashan Gary

[Fritz]

I hate this pick, PB. It's Justin Harrell 2.0.

I feel like we're going back to the dark days of the 70's. Gutekunst blew this round, badly.

[Bretsky]

More of a wait and see. I think the Packers will use him a bit differently than Michigan did, so hard to project.

I'm about asking for opinions so I can be right or wrong and see who's on the train and who is off

Wait and see is not an option)))

[Bretsky]

I was talking to my buddy on the phone tonight, and as the Packers' pick approached, we were so geeked. Everything was falling perfectly. There were still two qb's on the board if someone wanted to move up, so maybe Green Bay could move down a few spots, get an extra pick, still get a great player. Not a single offensive lineman had been taken - lots of great choices. Sweat, Burns, the Clemson d-lineman, offensive tackle of your choice - what a great selection! We were stoked.

Then the pick came in - Rashan Gary. I threw up in my mouth and started crying at the same time. It was about the only shitty move they could've made, and they made it.

What a shitty, shitty, shitty, shitty, shitty, shitty pick.

Gary will be injured and ineffective. Mark my words. He was hyped beyond belief at Michigan, but you won't see highlights of him against Ohio State or against a bowl opponent - because there are none. Dude disappeared against good competition.

Gutekunst sucks. What the fuck. I am disgusted.

Hey Fritz................do you live in the Michigan area so you have watched this dude plenty ?

I loved Bush . Would you have blessed Bush as our #12


We took this guy over some elite OT's. He better be dam dam good or this is a m'ther of f'ck ups

[texaspackerbacker]

My first thought about Gary was, damn, another guy who is better suited to 4-3/another Datone Jones or Nick Perry. My second thought was, why the hell do we need an edge rusher after picking up the two Smiths as FAs? There's also the fact that he under-achieved in college.

Despite all that, though, I'm guardedly optimistic about him. He was athletic enough to be the #1 recruit in the country coming out of high school - way more potential that Datone or Perry. And as has been said, his under-achieving may have been caused by injuries.

Contrary to what some have said, I would say the Packers do NOT have a lot of needs. They are solid just about everywhere except ILB and O Line and Safety. There were no ILBs left at #12 with the Devins gone; There was no Safety deserving to be picked that high; And as I have said several times, top O Linemen in college are a risk, as they don't often translate to be great pro players.

[Joemailman]

http://draftanalyst.com/rashan-gary

Pos:
Explosive pass-rushing defensive end with terrific size, growth potential and upside. Fires off the snap with an explosive first step, quickly changes direction and shows speed to every area of the field. Easily alters his angle of attack, displays outstanding movement skills and gets a lot of force going up the field. Disruptive edge rusher who shows speed off the corner and a closing burst. Fast in lateral pursuit, chases the action hard and plays low to the ground with excellent pad level. Effective out of a three-point stance and occasionally when lined up over tackle.
Neg:
Lacks bulk and gets easily outpositioned from the action by blocks. Can be a liability against the run. Struggled with a shoulder injury in 2018.
Analysis:
Gary is a tremendous defensive end prospect who will have opportunities in certain 3-4 alignments. He's fast, athletic and intense and should only improve as he physically matures.

Some of these scouting reports are more positive than I wold have thought. Hopefully that shoulder won't be an issue in the future, because I have a feeling it may have affected his production in 2018.

[MadScientist]

Ugh. I came in late and missed watching the draft. Glad I did since this is a huge disappointment. Shoulder injuries are bad news, since they tend not to heal very well, with or without injury. I hope he proves me wrong, but this guy has bust written all over him.

[George Cumby]

Fritz nailed it on the bum Ted drafted out of MSU. The kid who had a great first step against Big 10 competition, against the NFL, not so much.

I'll take Fritz's word this is a bad pick.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

At least Gary ain’t fat. For a moment, I thought I was gonna have to boycott my beloved Pack.

[wist43]

I'll be shocked if we even see him play much...

Always hurt and no production in college... fully expect that will be tag line to his pro career.as well.

Terrible pick... just a disaster.

[mission]

This was pretty much the *only* guy I didn't want. I was begging for Devin Bush and I almost wanted to cry when the Steelers traded up to get him... then with the Gary call... I just... I was stunned. Ugh.

The only hope is that he was either not producing due to scheme or that if Pettine can get 10 sacks out of Fackrell then maybe he can work his magic with this guy. Just seems like so many IFs; there shouldn't be IFs at #12 in the first damn round.

[Deputy Nutz]

Fuck, you guys act like the sky has collapsed and Aaron Rodgers has finally shaved his beard and come out of the closet.

[Deputy Nutz]

6. Rashan Gary DE Michigan - Gary has all the physical traits you look for in a defensive end and then more. His biggest question mark during the draft process is his lack of production on film. He might have been playing out of position as a DT, but for the number 1 rated high school player you wouldn't think it would slow his production that much. His motor has serious question marks, but his ability and potential are sky high.

I had Gary as my number 6 edge rusher. My comments on him are just about par with the rest of the speculation. I don't think the Gary is going to kill you. He might not be a double digit sack guy, but I don't think he is going to get steam rolled and lay down and die. He has too good of athleticism to do that. The guy is a physical freak and I don't think he is a weight room work out warrior type guy either.

My question is where do you play him? Where is he the most comfortable and if he is comfortable in a 2 point stance coming off the edge can you play him there full time?

The pick has been made, you all will have to learn to love him and then wait for him to break your heart.

[bobblehead]

Was Gary hurt most of his career ? Athletically he is incredibly gifted. Harv noted his issue was not motivation. He wasn't even their best rusher and at some key plays he was riding the sideline.

What was the reasoning for the lack of production (asking this seriously if anybody knows) ?

I kind of look at it this way. Look at who we signed at OLB. Physically Gary is built about the same, but much more athletic. Neither of the smiths had the best stats either. Gutes has a type. Gary fits it. Someone put the ht/weight of both smiths and Gary in a thread somewhere...might even be this one. Very close. As I have been saying. If you are as true to your convictions as Gutes seems to be....you better be right. TT usually was. Gutes better be.

[bobblehead]

Anybody drinking the Gary Kool Aide ???

I'm not, but maybe you should be. We got a faster bigger stronger TJ Watt. I am seeing Gutes vision. Not sure I love it, but he was right about Alexander so I'm giving a few years before I call for his head. I am more upset about trading up for Savage...the pick he really better crush. Gary, Z and preston are all guys who affect a game without filling up the stat sheet. He has a type.

[bobblehead]

Hey Fritz................do you live in the Michigan area so you have watched this dude plenty ?

I loved Bush . Would you have blessed Bush as our #12


We took this guy over some elite OT's. He better be dam dam good or this is a m'ther of f'ck ups

There is only one elite OT in this draft. Dillard. We will be glad we didn't take any of the others.