Preparing the Packers for the 2020 Season.

[MadtownPacker]

I can say that a few English classes would do you no harm. It's easy to see that a high wage earner your not. You can't seen to form a sentence correctly, your rhetoric is random, and I can't remember the last time that you focused on a threads subject, but instead you feel the need to engage others in some personal attack contest.

You're probably right my grammar is jacked. Glad a genius is here to point that out.
Hold up are some of these misspelled? Is this a run on sentence? Asking so I can learn since you have taken a few English classes.

[Smidgeon]

You're probably right my grammar is jacked. Glad a genius is here to point that out.
Hold up are some of these misspelled? Is this a run on sentence? Asking so I can learn since you have taken a few English classes.

Hahahahahaha!

[run pMc]

I think King is just ok. I think this year was a year of growth for him - he managed to stay fairly healthy. Snaps for young DBs are invaluable -- they will often get tested and picked on, especially their rookie year, and then they get steadier. Having a 6-3 CB is nice against bigger receivers, but I didn't get the sense he played to his measurables. He and Alexander also dropped a few picks. Not sad Jason Simmons left -- I think they could find someone to further develop those guys.
I was surprised Hollman never got on the field, and never heard exactly what happened with Tony Brown (punched Holmgren?), but Sullivan was a decent find and I think he'll get better, which helps offset Josh Jackson. CB is a spot where you want several good ones. Pass rush helps too.

Trading up for a WR seems like a weird proposition -- I wouldn't be shocked if Gute pulls another 2018 and drafts mid-rounds for WRs. There will be a lot of WRs going in R5 that normally would go one or two rounds earlier. If Jeudy or Lamb falls into the early 20's I might think about a move up, but even then they have so many other needs, I almost wonder if they will be better off trading down 5-6 spots and picking up an extra R4 to double up on WRs there. They will need 2 more IMO.

OT and ILB are likely higher priorities if you're going by need. If they bring back Bulaga I'd still draft a developmental guy. With the money they have spent on the OL (Bahk-Turner-Linsley Overdrive) I could see them going for a high round pick and trying to talk Veldheer into starting the 1st 4 games until the new guy gets his legs under him. I wonder if Summers can replace most of what Martinez did, and then drafting a speedy 3 down guy who can cover to help. Burks can become a ST demon, but I don't have faith he'll be playing a lot of snaps on D.

Keke will leapfrog Adams on the depth chart and Adams might not make it out of TC. Lancaster is ok vs. the run but they can do a lot better. I don't think they can play Clark 80% of the snaps as a long term solution.

Not sure moving to a 4-3 is a good idea. They would have to revamp parts of their roster, and Pettine is at heart a 3-4 guy. It looks like they play a 4-3 but it's really a 2-4-5 nickel, and Preston will drop into coverage sometimes. The Smiths aren't 4-3 DEs. Honestly, getting another good DL to help Clark, and teaching these guys how to fill run fits would go a long way.

[pbmax]

I can get behind Bach-Ton Turner Overdrive.

I understand listing ILB ahead of WR, but with the exception of the 49er games, the Packers demonstrated their D could function with less than stellar play there. If you prioritize ILB in the first round, you can get a decent WR in second.

And, of course, a Pro Bowl OL in the fourth round.

[Vincenzo]

Lol, what I’d like to know is what the fuck is wrong with being a garbage man. That’s a rock solid, secure job here in Canada.

[texaspackerbacker]

I think King is just ok. I think this year was a year of growth for him - he managed to stay fairly healthy. Snaps for young DBs are invaluable -- they will often get tested and picked on, especially their rookie year, and then they get steadier. Having a 6-3 CB is nice against bigger receivers, but I didn't get the sense he played to his measurables. He and Alexander also dropped a few picks. Not sad Jason Simmons left -- I think they could find someone to further develop those guys.
I was surprised Hollman never got on the field, and never heard exactly what happened with Tony Brown (punched Holmgren?), but Sullivan was a decent find and I think he'll get better, which helps offset Josh Jackson. CB is a spot where you want several good ones. Pass rush helps too.

hahahaha Just ok like in a GEICO commercial. King did snag some interceptions. I think he would do better in zone coverage or maybe as a Safety. Hopefully (but not likely) a replacement for Simmons would bring in some zone. Honestly, when I heard Simmons left, I thought "who's Simmons" - I thought Joe Whitt was still the DB coach. I agree, the new guy needs to coach up Hollman and maybe even figure out something for Josh Jackson.

[pbmax]

Lol, what I’d like to know is what the fuck is wrong with being a garbage man. That’s a rock solid, secure job here in Canada.

I'd answer, but then I'd have to remove or edit my post.

Mostly, Radagast is an insufferable loon.

[George Cumby]

King's decent to good.

It'd be nice to keep Martinez, if we had another stud in front of him, there's a lot of folks who would be singing a different tune.

Changing to a 4-3 makes no sense at all.

Lots of reasons to be concerned about Gary, but anyone calling him a bust at this point doesn't really have a valad football point.

A plug and play WR capable of taking the top off the defense and another front 7 stud would be nice.

[George Cumby]

Mostly, Radagast is an insufferable loon.

Kind of like Woodbuck's insane, mean spirited, racist, drunken uncle?

[pbmax]

I just don't get Gary's game.

Jamal Reynolds was too small, too small framed, to get by anyone and his speed was not all that impressive around the edge. He was reduced to ducking around a corner on tackles.

KGB had similar speed, perhaps better AND he could leverage around the tackle with good bend or lean. It was all he could do, but he did it pretty well. He had no bull rush to speak of.

Gary doesn't get around a corner like KGB but his speed is WAY better. Its Matthews like. But when he gets close to finishing, he just doesn't get there. His bull rush is OK too. He needs a finishing move AND a counter to speed to the inside.

My worry is that I have never seen someone develop the finishing move as a pro. Usually, its getting to that point that is the problem.

[Zool]

I just don't get Gary's game.

Jamal Reynolds was too small, too small framed, to get by anyone and his speed was not all that impressive around the edge. He was reduced to ducking around a corner on tackles.

KGB had similar speed, perhaps better AND he could leverage around the tackle with good bend or lean. It was all he could do, but he did it pretty well. He had no bull rush to speak of.

Gary doesn't get around a corner like KGB but his speed is WAY better. Its Matthews like. But when he gets close to finishing, he just doesn't get there. His bull rush is OK too. He needs a finishing move AND a counter to speed to the inside.

My worry is that I have never seen someone develop the finishing move as a pro. Usually, its getting to that point that is the problem.

He also gets no where near starter snaps because there's $100M in front of him. How much did he play up in college? I recall him playing down lineman in all the films I saw. Maybe he really is just learning.

Z had a good rookie year, then had 1 sack in year 2 with 4 QB hits. Better year 3, then a very good year 4.
Preston had 8 sacks as a rookie on 10 QB hits. That's Frackle level.

Now, they were 4th and 2nd round picks but here's still hope. My only wonder is that he's Nick Perry 2.0 and always is just okay.

[pbmax]

He also gets no where near starter snaps because there's $100M in front of him. How much did he play up in college? I recall him playing down lineman in all the films I saw. Maybe he really is just learning.

Z had a good rookie year, then had 1 sack in year 2 with 4 QB hits. Better year 3, then a very good year 4.
Preston had 8 sacks as a rookie on 10 QB hits. That's Frackle level.

Now, they were 4th and 2nd round picks but here's still hope. My only wonder is that he's Nick Perry 2.0 and always is just okay.

Could be. Its also the problem with the developmental guy in the first round after you spend a boatload in cash on starters.

[Bretsky]

Could be. Its also the problem with the developmental guy in the first round after you spend a boatload in cash on starters.

And it could be that his measurable s are just far superior to his play and they are going to be sucker GM's that fall for what. I don't understand why so many just ignore his college production; this year should be no surprise to anybody who followed Big Ten Football . I am being lazy here; and I don't feel like looking the hippy up but it would not surprise me at all if Winnovich was the better Rookie OLB this year. He produced more in college. Gary's measurable s are crazy insane and coaches think they can coach that up. But history is against us. . But he disappointed as a Wolverine and Packer so far. . Everybody thinks they can make a star out of the freak athletes.

Just sux that we could have went so many ways with that pick that coudl have really inpacted out future at a bunch of positions on need. We won't see a number 12 pick for a long time now. What a great opportunity

[Bretsky]

Could be. Its also the problem with the developmental guy in the first round after you spend a boatload in cash on starters.

a Valid point and another reason to pass on him. On a win now team he wasn't good enough to beat out Fackrell. Plenty of picks after him would have.

[hoosier]

Kind of like Woodbuck's insane, mean spirited, racist, drunken uncle?

Stop stealing my material!!!!!!!!!