The Next Few Years - Rebuild Mode

[pbmax]

Barnwell with a timely story that echoes what I've been saying about the 2005 draft.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ve-jalen-hurts

Still think that list of QBs sells short the investment's teams made in those players. Either with money or draft picks, not every team on that list was in the market. We have John Schneider on record saying so.

Judging Boller, Delhomme or Warner or Simms a poor starting QB choice in 2005 is just as much revisionist history as saying Rodgers was a lock.

[Bretsky]

I think everyone is giving both Gute and The Flower too much credit for cunning.

I think the board fell this way and now they wait and hope it doesn't blow up in their face. Gute, as seems to be the new normal, isn't really excited about expending major capital on a WR unless its a big value.

The plan was that everyone will see it as reasonable. But if Rodgers doesn't agree, these two aren't going to get 4 years to straighten it out.

To go from 13-3 and hit .500 hard for 2-3 years won't do it.

Rodgers normally gets them to 8; so 10 is realistic IMO

If they no longer have an eiite QB's we'll be exposed if we continue to draft the way GUTEBAG has

Hopkins would look nice in G and G now, that's for sure.

[RashanGary]

On the bright side, rashan Gary is down to 275 pounds and moving like defensive back at that weight. Can't wait for the underwear Olympics

[RashanGary]

I did not think it was possible for Gute to be less popular than Ted in three short years, but fuck, he gutebagged us all and proved us wrong. Rashan Gary and Jordan Love. Ouch!

[mraynrand]

I did not think it was possible for Gute to be less popular than Ted in three short years, but fuck, he gutebagged us all and proved us wrong. Rashan Gary and Jordan Love. Ouch!

It's astonishing if you think about it. Had he drafted some fancy WR everyone would be kissing his hole.

[RashanGary]

It's astonishing if you think about it. Had he drafted some fancy WR everyone would be kissing his hole.

The real nuts and bolts of a football team

#2 WR

[pbmax]

Kruse at USAToday For The Win is posting about how the Packers 8th place offensive DVOA finish was mostly the run. Packers were ranked fourth with the run and 11th with the pass.

But I think that argues to solidify the pass game, not run better? More opportunity to improve?

[pbmax]

It's astonishing if you think about it. Had he drafted some fancy WR everyone would be kissing his hole.

If he gets Love at 30 and trades up for Pittman, he's a genius.

[Upnorth]

Kruse at USAToday For The Win is posting about how the Packers 8th place offensive DVOA finish was mostly the run. Packers were ranked fourth with the run and 11th with the pass.

But I think that argues to solidify the pass game, not run better? More opportunity to improve?

Very valid point. But if they think love is the man QB > wr by a mile

[GB-Brandon]

I think everyone is giving both Gute and The Flower too much credit for cunning.

I think the board fell this way and now they wait and hope it doesn't blow up in their face. Gute, as seems to be the new normal, isn't really excited about expending major capital on a WR unless its a big value.

The plan was that everyone will see it as reasonable. But if Rodgers doesn't agree, these two aren't going to get 4 years to straighten it out.

To go from 13-3 and hit .500 hard for 2-3 years won't do it.

Then they might want to start getting their resumes out cause they just cut their own throats.

[mraynrand]

Then they might want to start getting their resumes out cause they just cut their own throats.

you can't win in the NFL without a first or second round rookie WR

[yetisnowman]

If he gets Love at 30 and trades up for Pittman, he's a genius.

Nonsense. A lot of us would have hated Love at 30 just the same. Trading up was the icing on the cake.

[Smidgeon]

Bob McGinn:

I doubt this is accurate. Rodgers (before the draft) was on AJ Hawk's show and said that the disconnect between him and M4 was all media driven. That they got along "really fucking well". So any speculation about "tired acts" is clickbait as a direct source claims otherwise.

[call_me_ishmael]

I doubt this is accurate. Rodgers (before the draft) was on AJ Hawk's show and said that the disconnect between him and M4 was all media driven. That they got along "really fucking well". So any speculation about "tired acts" is clickbait as a direct source claims otherwise.

To be fair, what else is Rodgers going to say?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Still think that list of QBs sells short the investment's teams made in those players. Either with money or draft picks, not every team on that list was in the market. We have John Schneider on record saying so.

Judging Boller, Delhomme or Warner or Simms a poor starting QB choice in 2005 is just as much revisionist history as saying Rodgers was a lock.

There were a handful of teams (Miami, Cleveand, Tampa Bay, Washington, Oakland) on that list that had terrible QB situations. There were a few that had drafted guys in 2002 (e.g. Harrington in Detroit), but they had three years to show they didn't belong. There were a couple of teams (Arizona, Dallas) that went older free agent QBs, but not somebody you pass en elite QB prospect for. Teams in that draft were in worse shape at the QB position than teams in this year's draft. After the Chargers pick, there may have been two teams that needed a QB. Carolina with Bridgewater. Jacksonville with Minshew, but he had a solid rookie year.

Arizona - Murray
Cleveland - Mayfield
Jets - Darnold
Raiders - Carr
49ers - Jimmy G
Broncos - Lock
Falcons - Ryan
Cowboys - Prescott
Dolphins - just took Tua
Eagles - Wentz
Vikings - Cousins
Chargers - just took Herbert