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  • Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
    Nonsense. A lot of us would have hated Love at 30 just the same. Trading up was the icing on the cake.
    True. But if you get a legit prospect as backup/future QB PLUS you get a WR, then the lack of DL is easier to understand.

    For that matter, trading up in the second should cost less than the first round move. So maybe they keep a 4th or get an early 5th back. Then you get another stab at DL or ILB.

    Even I would be hard pressed to be too upset if you address two needs AND get a legit backup.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • I think the difference in that Top 12-15 (Schneider said past 12-14 it wasn't clear who would take him, McKenzie remembers 15) is that in 2020 there were 3 QBs to choose from before Love. That satisfies the QB needy early.

      McKenzie: Once he got past 15 or so, we were… looking at some of those other teams [ahead of us] and feeling like [a quarterback] was not a need for them. [Rodgers] could be a possibility. And the closer and closer it got, our discussion was that he could fall to us.

      Mayock: John [Schneider, former Packers personnel analyst and current Seahawks general manager] and I have had a few laughs about that over the years, because he heard my evaluation on my mock draft prior to it [the draft], and he thought there was some merit to it.
      The shock with Rodgers wasn't the slide from 14-24, it was from 2-13. He was the only other first round QB grade around.

      It was shocking—not that Alex Smith went No. 1 in the 2005 NFL draft, but that Aaron Rodgers fell to 24. Looking back 10 years later, it’s borderline unbelievable.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • Well, again, teams that needy at QB don't bypass truly elite QB prospects. Rodgers wasn't considered an elite QB prospect. There may have been talk of him going 1st because the 49ers were thinking about taking the hometown kid over another QB prospect (Alex Smith) that wasn't elite. As a prospect, Rodgers was closer to Love than Burrow or Tua. There were a lot of question marks surrounding him. That's why I give Thompson credit for drafting him. He wasn't a slam dunk--like Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, or Carson Palmer.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
          Well, again, teams that needy at QB don't bypass truly elite QB prospects. Rodgers wasn't considered an elite QB prospect. There may have been talk of him going 1st because the 49ers were thinking about taking the hometown kid over another QB prospect (Alex Smith) that wasn't elite. As a prospect, Rodgers was closer to Love than Burrow or Tua. There were a lot of question marks surrounding him. That's why I give Thompson credit for drafting him. He wasn't a slam dunk--like Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, or Carson Palmer.
          Going back to one year before Palmer, Top 5 picks only.

          Sam Bradford, Trubisky, Goff, Winston, Bortles, Stafford, Sanchize, Russell, Young, Eli, Carr. All way over drafted if not outright busts.

          Slam dunk prospect, I suspect, is more a state of mind than measurable state.

          Even more likely, until recently, teams wanted QB to fit their offensive model and were almost unwilling to adjust.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
            Well, again, teams that needy at QB don't bypass truly elite QB prospects. Rodgers wasn't considered an elite QB prospect. There may have been talk of him going 1st because the 49ers were thinking about taking the hometown kid over another QB prospect (Alex Smith) that wasn't elite. As a prospect, Rodgers was closer to Love than Burrow or Tua. There were a lot of question marks surrounding him. That's why I give Thompson credit for drafting him. He wasn't a slam dunk--like Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, or Carson Palmer.

            You are obviously just throwing the 17 interceptions out the window that JL threw last season alone with only 20 TD tosses. This is a serious concern and Rodgers didn’t have anywhere near this problem at Cal. For a team that wants to “run the football” and play ball control taking care of the football is a must.

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            • Looks like Favre had more to say today.

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              • This is just such an amazing gesture by Favre to be there for Aaron as the Packer organization has unleashed a full out attack on Rodgers. I’m so glad Rodgers has Favre to help him navigate through this as the Packers try to basically smear Rodgers with the leak by Bob McGinn etc etc.
                Last edited by GB-Brandon; 04-30-2020, 06:14 PM.

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                • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                  I did not think it was possible for Gute to be less popular than Ted in three short years, but fuck, he gutebagged us all and proved us wrong. Rashan Gary and Jordan Love. Ouch!


                  I'm thinking ET


                  ELIOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

                  ELLIOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

                  Come back and be our GM ELIOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • The Packers better have some type of plan in place because this is not gonna go away. Gute gives Rodgers this huge guaranteed contract where they basically can’t get rid of him cap wise with nothing in place to off-set the blow. This is just INSANE!!

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                    • Rodgers tweeting tonight about his favorite Netflix show. Seems in good spirits. I'm sure he's faking the positive vibes and deep down he really wants to stick it to gute.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                        Rodgers tweeting tonight about his favorite Netflix show. Seems in good spirits. I'm sure he's faking the positive vibes and deep down he really wants to stick it to gute.

                        He won't go all Fare; he'll drop hints and use occasional sarcasm to let the media read ink. I'm figuring most coaches would hate those message tones
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • Ya know, its really not that awkward. Keep Aaron through ages, 36, 37 and 38. Trade him away at 39 if Love shows enough to feel confident in.

                          No more awkward than Brady leaving or Montana or.... Well, Favre made it weird. But still. Three years left to get one with Aaron! Let's go!!
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                            Well, again, teams that needy at QB don't bypass truly elite QB prospects. Rodgers wasn't considered an elite QB prospect. There may have been talk of him going 1st because the 49ers were thinking about taking the hometown kid over another QB prospect (Alex Smith) that wasn't elite. As a prospect, Rodgers was closer to Love than Burrow or Tua. There were a lot of question marks surrounding him. That's why I give Thompson credit for drafting him. He wasn't a slam dunk--like Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, or Carson Palmer.
                            Also, i actually compared Burrow’s arm talent to one QB and his name wasn’t Jordan Love.

                            Guess who it was?

                            AARON CHARLES RODGERS!!!!!!!!!!!


                            I suppose you got it half right.

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                            • Jordan Love goes out and makes a few gunslinger Mahommes type throws across his body while throwing 17 interceptions and all the sudden the Packers basically mortgage the rest of the Rodgers era for him.

                              Unreal!

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                              • If Aaron handles this like a man, the whole lockerroom gonna have his back. They're all replaceable too, and they know it. They all kinda feel in this brutal business together when they see Aaron get the, "yeah, we're preparing for life without you" treatment. Really good omen for the lockerroom in 2020, that Aaron gets treated like one of the guys!
                                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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