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  • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
    Ya know, its really not that awkward. Keep Aaron through ages, 36, 37 and 38. Trade him away at 39 if Love shows enough to feel confident in.

    No more awkward than Brady leaving or Montana or.... Well, Favre made it weird. But still. Three years left to get one with Aaron! Let's go!!
    If this gains even more steam and there is a football season this year and Rodgers is not happy then why would you keep him?

    Do you really think this is gonna magically make Rodgers stop making audibles? If anything he might just run his playbook all game long. What does he have to lose at this point?

    Is he all the sudden gonna change his entire personality?

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    • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
      Jordan Love goes out and makes a few gunslinger Mahommes type throws across his body while throwing 17 interceptions and all the sudden the Packers basically mortgage the rest of the Rodgers era for him.

      Unreal!
      He does a lot of things well. You look at his arm, his movement and escapability, all the pressure he faced and the off balance throws and moving throws that came with it.... He showed that he can do it all. His upside is huge. Not just physical talent, but he shows a knack under pressure and a knack to be able to make things happen.

      Not saying it's gonna happen, but if we went back to back to back on all time QBs, it will be the first time ever and lifetimes of Packer fans will never really know what losing ever felt like.... Even going into their 40s and 50s.

      Relax! This might work out, bud!
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • We are absolutely gonna go try to win one with Aaron next year, abd the year after and probably one more after that.

        Defense is gonna be more veteran and cohesive this year. Run game is gonna be better. STs is solid. We're gonna win a bunch. Bet on it!
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
          If this gains even more steam and there is a football season this year and Rodgers is not happy then why would you keep him?

          Do you really think this is gonna magically make Rodgers stop making audibles? If anything he might just run his playbook all game long. What does he have to lose at this point?

          Is he all the sudden gonna change his entire personality?
          Well if this is the case then you either hire him as player/coach and save money as I suggested last year or you trade him.

          But Rodgers would be smart to go along with the coach’s playbook given his diminishing skills. Not likely he can run the EO like he used to.
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
            ...the Packers basically mortgage the rest of the Rodgers era for him!
            You write this like every first round pick from every team is a guaranteed pro bowl level talent. Or like the Packers have never blown a first round pick.
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
              He does a lot of things well. You look at his arm, his movement and escapability, all the pressure he faced and the off balance throws and moving throws that came with it.... He showed that he can do it all. His upside is huge. Not just physical talent, but he shows a knack under pressure and a knack to be able to make things happen.

              Not saying it's gonna happen, but if we went back to back to back on all time QBs, it will be the first time ever and lifetimes of Packer fans will never really know what losing ever felt like.... Even going into their 40s and 50s.

              Relax! This might work out, bud!


              He's a solid prospect; just two years early

              Had we taken Patrick Queen in R2 and traded up and grabbed Mims in round two I'd be stoked at our shot to get to the Bowl

              As nearly always, AROD will get us to the playoffs; the rest will get us bounced out of them shortly after
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                You write this like every first round pick from every team is a guaranteed pro bowl level talent. Or like the Packers have never blown a first round pick.

                Gutebag is doin some blowin there
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                  We are absolutely gonna go try to win one with Aaron next year, abd the year after and probably one more after that.

                  Defense is gonna be more veteran and cohesive this year. Run game is gonna be better. STs is solid. We're gonna win a bunch. Bet on it!


                  I hope you never ever change your name in PR to Jordan Love )))
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                    Many including myself had this team as being a few pieces away from being able to get over the hump on a 13-3 campaign and winning a Super Bowl. So with all the urgency to complete the puzzle I would argue trading up for Love instead of taking chances TO WIN NOW puts way more pressure on the JL pick to hit and for him to become something special.

                    For example, If all we ever get from this is a competent back up QB it would be widely considered a catastrophic failure.
                    I don't really care whether it's "widely considered" a purple unicorn. What's relevant is how it helps the Packers. A competent backup is a likely outcome, but the same goes for any of the WRs we could have taken. It all comes down to which they liked more. If they were pinning the chances of winning this year on a late first round pick, we were probably screwed anyway. Since they probably weren't, this isn't really the big deal some are making it.

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                    • Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                      I don't really care whether it's "widely considered" a purple unicorn. What's relevant is how it helps the Packers. A competent backup is a likely outcome, but the same goes for any of the WRs we could have taken. It all comes down to which they liked more. If they were pinning the chances of winning this year on a late first round pick, we're were probably screwed anyway. Since they probably weren't, this isn't really the big deal some are making it.
                      “Wash, Rinse and Repeat”

                      Seems to be the same narrative every year. I thought this is why we replaced an ill Ted Thompson with Gute. Not sure this is the outcome everyone envisioned.

                      The best case scenario for these moves or lack of moves is to not have a season this year which I don’t think we will if I had to bet. Even if there is a season it will most likely be modified. If that is the case then this move to take Love would make sense because the Packers would be closer to getting out of Rodgers contract. I am sure the Packer brass did their due diligence in looking over the CBA to determine what the potential outcomes are if no 2020 season.

                      In a sense a cancelled season would trigger sort of a “NFL Re-Set”. Maybe this was the key contributor for the Packers to go the direction they did.

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                      • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                        “Wash, Rinse and Repeat”

                        Seems to be the same narrative every year. I thought this is why we replaced an ill Ted Thompson with Gute. Not sure this is the outcome everyone envisioned.

                        The best case scenario for these moves or lack of moves is to not have a season this year which I don’t think we will if I had to bet. Even if there is a season it will most likely be modified. If that is the case then this move to take Love would make sense because the Packers would be closer to getting out of Rodgers contract. I am sure the Packer brass did their due diligence in looking over the CBA to determine what the potential outcomes are if no 2020 season.

                        In a sense a cancelled season would trigger sort of a “NFL Re-Set”. Maybe this was the key contributor for the Packers to go the direction they did.
                        Maybe it's this complex planning based on contingencies they can't control. Or maybe they just liked Love more than anyone else left on their board and saw good value.

                        Hard to say which seems more plausible.

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                        • Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                          Maybe it's this complex planning based on contingencies they can't control. Or maybe they just liked Love more than anyone else left on their board and saw good value.

                          Hard to say which seems more plausible.
                          Well, thats not very fun internet banter material now is it, Sharpe
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                            Well, thats not very fun internet banter material now is it, Sharpe
                            Sorry. I'll go back to my corner. Carry on.

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                            • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                              He's a solid prospect; just two years early

                              Had we taken Patrick Queen in R2 and traded up and grabbed Mims in round two I'd be stoked at our shot to get to the Bowl

                              As nearly always, AROD will get us to the playoffs; the rest will get us bounced out of them shortly after
                              The pick is 2 years early only if you assume that Rodgers will start for the Packers for the next 4 years. Given Rodgers recent career trajectory, It's not surprising Gutey and MLF were not willing to assume that. After 6 straight years of a passer rating over 100, he's had just 1 in the last 5. If Love turns out to be the player the Packers expect, the likelihood is that they would trade or release Rodgers after the 2021 season. At that point, Love should know the offense well, and the Packers would create significant salary cap room by moving Rodgers. I think Rodgers would have to play significantly better than he played in 2019 to be here 4 more years.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                                Sorry. I'll go back to my corner. Carry on.

                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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