The Next Few Years - Rebuild Mode

[Fritz]

I agree with all this except I don’t believe they will re-sign Bakh. He isn’t a perfect fit for what they want to do and Gute doesn’t want anything with Thompson’s name on it on the roster. This is also the same reason Kenny Clark won’t get resigned either.

It’s a Total Rebuild.

I don’t think Rodgers is even coming back this year as there isn’t much reason too but to get an injury that ends his career. If the season is called then i can almost guarantee he won’t be back ever.

Well, now I can say I've been around forever, because it's all come around, full circle. The section above in boldface type is EXACTLY what the criticism of Thompson was the first few years he was the GM. Wow.

You can apparently just dredge up all the old shit, plug in the new names, and boom, you've got your post.

The parallels between what people said after Rodgers got drafted are also there. Such disrespect to such a dedicated, golden quarterback - not getting him the piece or pieces he needs for that one more SuperBowl.

On that note, I know QB is the most important position, but I wonder if guys playing other positions, who have players drafted at their position ALL THE TIME with no one ever saying anything, get a little irked that somehow it's sacreligious to draft a QB while Rodgers is here.

[pbmax]

Well, now I can say I've been around forever, because it's all come around, full circle. The section above in boldface type is EXACTLY what the criticism of Thompson was the first few years he was the GM. Wow.

You can apparently just dredge up all the old shit, plug in the new names, and boom, you've got your post.

The parallels between what people said after Rodgers got drafted are also there. Such disrespect to such a dedicated, golden quarterback - not getting him the piece or pieces he needs for that one more SuperBowl.

On that note, I know QB is the most important position, but I wonder if guys playing other positions, who have players drafted at their position ALL THE TIME with no one ever saying anything, get a little irked that somehow it's sacreligious to draft a QB while Rodgers is here.

When critics have no evidence, they resort to mind reading.

[Upnorth]

The more I think about this draft the more I'm actually liking it. They have a theme, a goal that they plan for and they executed it. Since day one the flower has preached running game and this draft definitely was running game heavy. This draft if average should help the team for the foreseeable future. Unless flower gets fired and they get a new philosophy, then boy they screwed the pooch.
If love turns into a top 10 QB and we stick with this philosophy and the rest of the draft is average in results this is a cornerstone draft for the future of the team.

I, fan with limited knowledge, wanted wr addressed, and ilb and te in that order. They, professionals who have shown potential, went the direction the coach has planned for. I'm becoming very optimistic about this draft.

[mraynrand]

When critics have no evidence, they resort to mind reading.

That's really what you think, isn't it?

[Fritz]

The more I think about this draft the more I'm actually liking it. They have a theme, a goal that they plan for and they executed it. Since day one the flower has preached running game and this draft definitely was running game heavy. This draft if average should help the team for the foreseeable future. Unless flower gets fired and they get a new philosophy, then boy they screwed the pooch.
If love turns into a top 10 QB and we stick with this philosophy and the rest of the draft is average in results this is a cornerstone draft for the future of the team.

I, fan with limited knowledge, wanted wr addressed, and ilb and te in that order. They, professionals who have shown potential, went the direction the coach has planned for. I'm becoming very optimistic about this draft.

I don't know that I;'m optimistic, as you are, but I do agree with you that they do have a plan and clearly are implementing that plan. The Flower has a specific idea of the offense and Gutes is getting the players that fit that idea. Whether it works or not, we will see. But plugging (buttplugging?) the holes with a shiny new piece and hoping the hodgepodge will work out seems more reminiscent of the last couple of years under MM (though this was not all his fault; still, that whole "re-evaluating the offense" theme of the last few years seemed to revolve around getting slightly different pieces to try to get Rodgers to take them over the top).

Whereas MM gave lip service to the run, over and over, but abandoned ship pretty quickly (not saying this was wrong; just saying that's what seemed to happen),, it appears The Flower is really, really committing to running the ball and passing off play action. This could actually help Rodgers lengthen his career.

Still, I am in the camp that wanted a wide receiver fairly early on. But we'll see how it all goes.

[wist43]

Well, not in the draft. But they did sign Funchess and the Canadian guy at WR.

And they signed Kirksey at ILB, who is a better talent at LB than Martinez if healthy.

DL is UDFAs plus street FA. Not sure what is there.

The help there just didn't come from the draft.

The problem max is that means we're going to be status quo from last year, and last year we weren't good enough.

Let me hear your argument that says we surpassed SF, NO, and now Dallas, TB, and SEA??

[sharpe1027]

The problem max is that means we're going to be status quo from last year, and last year we weren't good enough.

Let me hear your argument that says we surpassed SF, NO, and now Dallas, TB, and SEA??

Fair point, but I question whether expecting a rookie WR (even one in the first late round) to put us above those teams is realistic. If not, then we fail by that measure regardless.

[GB-Brandon]

The more I think about this draft the more I'm actually liking it. They have a theme, a goal that they plan for and they executed it. Since day one the flower has preached running game and this draft definitely was running game heavy. This draft if average should help the team for the foreseeable future. Unless flower gets fired and they get a new philosophy, then boy they screwed the pooch.
If love turns into a top 10 QB and we stick with this philosophy and the rest of the draft is average in results this is a cornerstone draft for the future of the team.

I, fan with limited knowledge, wanted wr addressed, and ilb and te in that order. They, professionals who have shown potential, went the direction the coach has planned for. I'm becoming very optimistic about this draft.

Yes, “the theme” which i explained in another thread. They traded in the sports car for a Fucken pick up truck. Nothing against pick up trucks but there a dime a dozen and you can pretty much get one at any time. High valued sports cars are much more difficult to obtain and are fewer and farther between.

My point is they could of done this switch at any time. There was zero reason to do it now coming off a 13-3 season. This has become what an2nd year GM and 1st year head coach felt more comfortable with. Meaning they don’t know what the hell to do with a Sports Car.

[GB-Brandon]

Fair point, but I question whether expecting a rookie WR (even one in the first late round) to put us above those teams is realistic. If not, then we fail by that measure regardless.

Once again there has been a lack of effort regarding this for years.

[GB-Brandon]

You can put Jordan Love pick over to the side for a second and look at the rest of the draft. I would say the premise is obviously clear.

[GB-Brandon]

Once again there has been a lack of effort regarding this for years.

Rookie WR won’t produce? How about drafting players in the 1st round two years in a row that won’t even get off the Bench?

[Upnorth]

Yes, “the theme” which i explained in another thread. They traded in the sports car for a Fucken pick up truck. Nothing against pick up trucks but there a dime a dozen and you can pretty much get one at any time. High valued sports cars are much more difficult to obtain and are fewer and farther between.

My point is they could of done this switch at any time. There was zero reason to do it now coming off a 13-3 season. This has become what an2nd year GM and 1st year head coach felt more comfortable with. Meaning they don’t know what the hell to do with a Sports Car.

I love your analogy and think it makes me even more optimistic for this draft. sports cars look awesome, sound awesome, work at high level for a short period and then break down or need major retooling.

pickup trucks just do the dam work. you got to get a decent one or its garbage, but you can expect it to get the job done.
there seems to be less and less starting quality qbs around so switching to a run base is going to spread and as it spreads d will catch up then we swing back to pass. so be in front of the curve, which we are right now with this draft.
earlier on some one asked if this put us in front of some team in the NFL. the only one we really aren't in front of is SF. Dallas, Philly,sea - I don't see how you can say we are behind them. NO, I don't know but it will be interesting. .. TB, if gronk is a healthy gronk I don't see anyone who can match them with their other receivers, just too much. trubisky would look like a probowler there. if gronk is just a jag, I think we have them beat. so SF is an issue. perhaps Arizona as well. but a rookie wr who was anything short of randy Moss in his rookie season ain't moving that needle. you want to catch them, win in the trenches. rookie rb have more impact than any other rookie position from what I have seen, so you want to close the gap in one year perhaps a bowling ball is what we need. plus they lost Joe Staley....

[Packers4Glory]

So we didn’t need to improve our WR, DL, ILB and OL.

We went out and got a bunch of OL, that’s about it from our needs list.

they did nothing but throw up hail mary's hoping 2 things get fixed. DL and WR.

the 2 things they really needed to fix they mostly stood pat. nobody was brought in to seriously shore those areas up. Funchess isn't a difference maker and doesn't have a high ceiling. they didn't draft a single player to help those 2 areas. DL they signed a cut dolphin player. odds are he's JAG.

[GB-Brandon]

I love your analogy and think it makes me even more optimistic for this draft. sports cars look awesome, sound awesome, work at high level for a short period and then break down or need major retooling.

pickup trucks just do the dam work. you got to get a decent one or its garbage, but you can expect it to get the job done.
there seems to be less and less starting quality qbs around so switching to a run base is going to spread and as it spreads d will catch up then we swing back to pass. so be in front of the curve, which we are right now with this draft.
earlier on some one asked if this put us in front of some team in the NFL. the only one we really aren't in front of is SF. Dallas, Philly,sea - I don't see how you can say we are behind them. NO, I don't know but it will be interesting. .. TB, if gronk is a healthy gronk I don't see anyone who can match them with their other receivers, just too much. trubisky would look like a probowler there. if gronk is just a jag, I think we have them beat. so SF is an issue. perhaps Arizona as well. but a rookie wr who was anything short of randy Moss in his rookie season ain't moving that needle. you want to catch them, win in the trenches. rookie rb have more impact than any other rookie position from what I have seen, so you want to close the gap in one year perhaps a bowling ball is what we need. plus they lost Joe Staley....

I’m a Badger fan so I Love SMASH MOUTH. I had Dillion in some of my mocks and I think He is gonna be a star. That H-back they got is tough as nails and can catch. Jenkins(who they got last year) and Billy Turner are road graders. They basically added another 3 tough as nails type interior OL in the draft. Wagner who they brought in is a power RT. He just isn’t as good a pass blocker as Bulaga.

There is no doubt LaFluer wants to beat people up like the Niners did to us last year. Some scars were obviously created from that game and our front office said fuck it. We’re gonna kick some peoples teeth in cause it don’t feel good when ours got kicked in. It’s a copy cat league.

I’m not rooting against it. If Gute makes a trade or brings someone in at the WR position I’ll change my toon. I hope they can pull it off.

[GB-Brandon]

We need Dillon to be the next Earl Campbell!!!!