The Next Few Years - Rebuild Mode

[GB-Brandon]

I don't know how we can afford him next year. Let's assume he gets 12-14MIL/Year

How do we make cap room for that ?

I would not give up a 2nd w/o an extension.

Then again, I should really be all in for trading our entire draft for players who can play ))

I don’t like how the Packers do this cap thing where they balance the budget three years down the road. I’m convinced it has cost us championships. Generally, the cap thing works it way out with some players regressing or getting injured along with following certain re-signing principles that the Packers usually follow(which I do like)

If everyone hits and plays like all-stars then I would certainly take having a Lombardi in the showroom and having to make some tough decisions on a couple guys over the current situation of putting up with mediocrity. I’m really not sure what we’re saving up for.

[pbmax]

No one is getting big deals unless you are a core member of the team this offseason.

Too much uncertainty about the cap in 2021.

[GB-Brandon]

No one is getting big deals unless you are a core member of the team this offseason.

Too much uncertainty about the cap in 2021.

That’s fine but why do we need to make all these decisions now with so much uncertainty? They say there gonna play so put the best roster together to win now. “Now is all you have”. Time usually works these decisions out that need to be made later one way or another.

Trying to create a 2-3 crystal ball with so much uncertainty is like trying to conquer a Roulette Table.

They certainly didn’t maximize there cap situation correctly with the timing of the Rodgers extension along with the JL pick. Go get a receiver that helps us win now. They have planned enough for the future with there big draft pick.

[RashanGary]

That’s fine but why do we need to make all these decisions now with so much uncertainty? They say there gonna play so put the best roster together to win now. “Now is all you have”. Time usually works these decisions out that need to be made later one way or another.

Trying to create a 2-3 crystal ball with so much uncertainty is like trying to conquer a Roulette Table.

They certainly didn’t maximize there cap situation correctly with the timing of the Rodgers extension along with the JL pick. Go get a receiver that helps us win now. They have planned enough for the future with there big draft pick.

Do you ever get sick of yourself?

[Radagast]

Rebuilding, as I've said before, is an incorrect term. You rebuild a team by continuing to replace players/fill needs as you always have. GB, with the arrival of Pettine and LaFleur (and Gutekunst's promotion to GM), the Packers began to evolve with new thinking and new ways of building a winning team. Too many in the media and in the forums are so accustomed to the traditional ways that teams address concerns and don't see how GB has been on the road less traveled. That will make all the difference.

[PackerGold]

Dillion's value in 2020

These picks do nothing to improve the 2020 team...

Dillion and Josiah Duhwtf will play and contribute, but their impact will be very modest.

Love of course is a long-term project - and a big project at that. He's got terrible mechanics, is inaccurate, makes poor decisions, and makes an incredible number of poor throws. He's got one hell of a long way to go before he can even serve as the game day backup.

So, given that this draft is going to provide no help this year, and Rodgers will be one year closer to calling it a career - the following might be our near term reality:

1) Rodgers will certainly be gone after 2022, if not 2021.

2) P Smith is on a 3 year deal and is likely gone after 2021.

3) Ditto for Amos.

4) Z Smith is on a 4 year deal and will be over 30, so he's gone thereabouts.

5) Bacteria will probably be gone after 2020.

6) Jones will be gone next year.

7) Adam's will be getting long in the tooth.

That's 3-4 years with no realistic shot at a Championshp, and a pretty depleted roster by 2022.

We can't expect Gute will do anything to actually flesh out the roster - so I'm guessing our best hope is that we fail spectacularly enough to be able to dump Gute and Lefluer after the 2022 season.

That's the only lipstick I can put on this pig. Horrific last 2 days for the Green Bay Packers.

Pig it is. In reading everything out there on AJ Dillion, there are more unkowns than known about how he will do in the NFL. I equate drafting AJ Dillion to draft Rashad Gary in 2019. A very large player and fast but booth may end up a bust, and costing a high draft pick in the process. AJ Dillion was rated the no 12 running back for a reason. Yes, he will play this year because Gute and HC have to save face. Just like playing Rashad Gary last year which didn't work out well. Rashad Gary shows up at the first practice with a shoulder brace. Not good. My forecast for Dillon is that he will be marginally effective but will he earn the No. 2 draft pick he got, NO.

My largest concern is Aaron Rogers. Pretty much everyone agrees not much was done to help Aaron and the team one game away from the Super bowl. With four years left on his contract, I believe Gute & HC will play Aaron, the team will move backward and finish 10-6, make the playoffs and loose early on and then a trade will be made with Aaron. We have two drafts under the belt now for Gute and LaFluer and at the end of both my question is the same, why?

[PackerGold]

Nothing make sense from the last two drafts. Last year, Rashad Gary No1 pick. How did that go in 2019? This year, the combination of Love and Dillon draft picks 1 &2. The first three picks make or breaks a team over the long-term. I looked at players who went undrafted like Benito Jones DT which we need desperately, and Hunter Bryant TE which we need desperately and their combine ratings are higher than 7-8 of the draft picks the Packers selected. Why move up four positions and give up a 4th round pick, when they could have got Love at No. 30. After two drafts, I am beginning to wonder how knowledgeable Gute and LaFluer really are and if they have a plan, it doesn't sound like a good one, if they do.

[falco]

[mraynrand]

lol

[Upnorth]

One good thing about the uncertainty is that all teams are facing it. Might make for some bargains now.

[gbgary]

covid will trash the 2021 cap. it's bite the bullet time. Packers will need to shed contracts/talent. it's time to start blowing things up. trade jones now and get something for him. release rodgers and bakhtiari (and whoever else to get by) next off-season.

https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/statu...80502626603008

[mraynrand]

covid will trash the 2021 cap. it's bite the bullet time. Packers will need to shed contracts/talent. it's time to start blowing things up. trade jones now and get something for him. release rodgers and bakhtiari (and whoever else to get by) next off-season.

https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/statu...80502626603008

Stop

[GB-Brandon]

covid will trash the 2021 cap. it's bite the bullet time. Packers will need to shed contracts/talent. it's time to start blowing things up. trade jones now and get something for him. release rodgers and bakhtiari (and whoever else to get by) next off-season.

https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/statu...80502626603008

This has actually been my one caveat with the Jordan Love pick.

[mraynrand]

This has actually been my one caveat with the Jordan Love pick.

Realistically there’s two years before any blow up, doncha think?

[pbmax]

covid will trash the 2021 cap. it's bite the bullet time. Packers will need to shed contracts/talent. it's time to start blowing things up. trade jones now and get something for him. release rodgers and bakhtiari (and whoever else to get by) next off-season.

https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/statu...80502626603008

They will have to negotiate a percentage drop in all contracts for 2021 if this does come true.

No way does the cap drop and all contracts remain the same.