The Next Few Years - Rebuild Mode

[texaspackerbacker]

The gripe against Capers was that teams figured him out, and he wasn't able to counter the adjustments. That already appeared to be happening with Pettine at times last season. Partly, it was personnel weakness - those Northwestern pigs, etc., but a lot of other teams seem like they do a better job of covering up or overcoming their personnel problems. One thing Capers and Pettine had in common was being almost religiously opposed to zone coverage in our secondary. There were people our top Corner, Alexander, just couldn't cover consistently, and King and the rest got beat it seemed like more than half the time. Zone coverage might have helped that. It might also have helped against the run.

[GB-Brandon]

The thing is I don’t think Belichick himself could of made those Capers defenses much better. Capers was trying to create a pass rush with an aging Clay Matthews and two pretty big busts in Nick Perry and Datone Jones. Capers was able to get some stuff out of Julius Peppers. He was using UDFA ILB’s like Sam Barrington and Joe Thomas. Low budget guys up front were Letroy Guion and Mike Pennel. Throw in bad draft picks across the secondary mostly and it was a disaster.

Pettine has more talent to work with. To me Pettine is a guy who can give you a top 10 defense “IF” you give the guy mass talent at just about every position.

[mraynrand]

To me Pettine is a guy who can give you a top 10 defense “IF” you give the guy mass talent at just about every position.

Kinda going out on a limb here, aren’t ya?

[RashanGary]

Is Pettine really that big of an upgrade over Dom ? I know how Wist responds; but I'm curious about the rest. To me, they are both average

One day it's, "Aaron Rodgers gets them to the playoffs but the lack of team talent kills them"

The next day it's, "Pettine isn't getting the most of the talent on defense"


Maybe you'd be taken more seriously if you had gripes that lined up with each other, rather than just being negative about everything.

[run pMc]

TEH SKY IZ FALLIN GB REBUILDN NO TALNT N DUM COACHES FIRW GUTE

[ThunderDan]

One day it's, "Aaron Rodgers gets them to the playoffs but the lack of team talent kills them"

The next day it's, "Pettine isn't getting the most of the talent on defense"


Maybe you'd be taken more seriously if you had gripes that lined up with each other, rather than just being negative about everything.

How don't those two points line up? We have been drafting heavily on D for years until this last draft. Our biggest FA pick ups have been on the D side of the ball. The D has been getting the majority of the "investments" into the team.

Our D should be leaps ahead. So it is either Pettine isn't able to get the most out of his players or Gute hasn't gotten him the pieces he needs. 2019 was better than 2018 but we spent a lot of money in FA on that side of the ball so there should have been a jump.

And trust me, I take Bretsky's posts a lot more seriously than your posts if you want to start playing that game.

[GB-Brandon]

One day it's, "Aaron Rodgers gets them to the playoffs but the lack of team talent kills them"

The next day it's, "Pettine isn't getting the most of the talent on defense"


Maybe you'd be taken more seriously if you had gripes that lined up with each other, rather than just being negative about everything.

“Negative About Everything”?

Just because someone “critically thinks or questions” which many believe is warranted they’re being “Negative”?

If people want to call a blue sky purple then that’s they’re choice but that doesn’t make the person calling the sky blue wrong or negative.

[Zool]

TEH SKY IZ FALLIN GB REBUILDN NO TALNT N DUM COACHES FIRW GUTE

Well it is May?

[Smidgeon]

Well it is May?

"The Sky Is Falling" in May. Hmm. No Apocalypse Bingo yet. Maybe June will bring "Unnatural Darkness", then I'll have Apocalypse Bingo for sure!

[Zool]

[pbmax]

I'm not saying the sky is falling, but I do have some complaints.

And I think GB-Brandon's point of investments is spot on. Its almost as if, without an announcement, they Packers spent 4 years moving away from QB led offense to the Ravens model considering the improvements they did not make to the offense until this draft. And it was all before that Raven dude got hired.

And Pettine is absolutely on a hot seat and Gute shouldn't buy a large house.

But its not as bad as Murder Hornets.

[ThunderDan]

I'm not saying the sky is falling, but I do have some complaints.

And I think GB-Brandon's point of investments is spot on. Its almost as if, without an announcement, they Packers spent 4 years moving away from QB led offense to the Ravens model considering the improvements they did not make to the offense until this draft. And it was all before that Raven dude got hired.

And Pettine is absolutely on a hot seat and Gute shouldn't buy a large house.

But its not as bad as Murder Hornets.

It was my idea. GB-Brandon was talking about blue and purple skies.

[pbmax]

It was my idea. GB-Brandon was talking about blue and purple skies.

True, Brandon preferred the apocalyptic metaphor.

But I think he was also banging on about the help that both Capers and Pettine have received without much in the way of results for quite a while now, especially before the draft. He's not the only person who has ever mentioned it, but I think its a correct point and worth repeating.

And it was underway well before LaFleur or Gute or the Ravens personnel dude arrived. wist has been on it for a long time.

The Packers, perhaps by virtue of QB first posture, simply get more value from picks on offense regularly than compared to their D picks.

[mraynrand]

True, Brandon preferred the apocalyptic metaphor.

But I think he was also banging on about the help that both Capers and Pettine have received without much in the way of results for quite a while now, especially before the draft. He's not the only person who has ever mentioned it, but I think its a correct point and worth repeating.

And it was underway well before LaFleur or Gute or the Ravens personnel dude arrived. wist has been on it for a long time.

The Packers, perhaps by virtue of QB first posture, simply get more value from picks on offense regularly than compared to their D picks.

I thought the consensus was more that the defensive picks were poor, rather than their utilization being terrible. I guess with Capers, most ended up believing 'both'

Pettine should have his feet to the fire. Not being able to adjust in that NFCC game was astonishing. If they can't counter SF this year, he should lose his job. Not saying they have to shut SF down, but he'd better not get gashed again. There's no reason they can't match KC's effort. (should be better actually).

I am placing all my hopes on the emergence of Burks.

[GB-Brandon]

I thought the consensus was more that the defensive picks were poor, rather than their utilization being terrible. I guess with Capers, most ended up believing 'both'

Pettine should have his feet to the fire. Not being able to adjust in that NFCC game was astonishing. If they can't counter SF this year, he should lose his job. Not saying they have to shut SF down, but he'd better not get gashed again. There's no reason they can't match KC's effort. (should be better actually).

I am placing all my hopes on the emergence of Burks.

Yet another senseless trade up.