The Next Few Years - Rebuild Mode

[mraynrand]

They will have to negotiate a percentage drop in all contracts for 2021 if this does come true.

No way does the cap drop and all contracts remain the same.

Maybe they can hire the same guys who assessed home values for property taxes in 2009.

[gbgary]

This has actually been my one caveat with the Jordan Love pick.

the 2021 cap demolition puts this last draft into perspective. tackle, QB, and RB...3 big contracts gone. they definitely can't keep Jones. let Bakh walk. cut/trade Rodgers after 2020 season will save, at the very least, $5m. think I read if they trade him they can split the dead cap charge over two years. that would save them even more in 2021.

[GB-Brandon]

Realistically there’s two years before any blow up, doncha think?

I don’t know. I went to get some take out today and drove by Lambeau on my way. As some might know people paint the fences across from the stadium with “New Slogans” from time to time. The fence that used to say “Hail Rodgers” was painted with “A New Star A New Era”. I Was gonna pull around and take a pic but didn’t want to get my food to get cold. I will get a pic next time.

I thought that was very interesting.

[mraynrand]

I don’t know. I went to get some take out today and drove by Lambeau on my way. As some might know people paint the fences across from the stadium with “New Slogans” from time to time. The fence that used to say “Hail Rodgers” was painted with “A New Star A New Era”. I Was gonna pull around and take a pic but didn’t want to get my food to get cold. I will get a pic next time.

I thought that was very interesting.

That is interesting, but obviously premature. How exciting will the preseason games be?!

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I like jones, think he’s a really good running back, but I strongly believe that in this day and age, you don’t spend for a RB

It’s kind of a shit thing to be a running back these days. You take a massive beating, and play a huge role in the game, but by the time your rookie contract is up, you’re almost over the hill.

I would be honestly trying to trade him right now, especially with the second round pick added to the pretty solid stable of RBs we already have

[GB-Brandon]

That is interesting, but obviously premature. How exciting will the preseason games be?!

I’m not certain of anything right now. From what I’ve read fans won’t be allowed at camp. There will be no mini-camp. Training camp will be cut short. I have not idea how many pre-season games there will actually be. I’m about 99 percent sure no family night scrimmage. Players will have to sign waivers. Obviously no fans in the stadium. League is prepared to play Super Bowl in empty stadium. Any uptick in Covid and the whole season probably goes up in smoke.

League will play games that certain states won’t allow in closest states that will allow play.

[GB-Brandon]

the 2021 cap demolition puts this last draft into perspective. tackle, QB, and RB...3 big contracts gone. they definitely can't keep Jones. let Bakh walk. cut/trade Rodgers after 2020 season will save, at the very least, $5m. think I read if they trade him they can split the dead cap charge over two years. that would save them even more in 2021.

I never thought they would re-sign Jones even before this new cap stuff. Somebody will be willing to overpay.

[Sparkey]

They will have to negotiate a percentage drop in all contracts for 2021 if this does come true.

No way does the cap drop and all contracts remain the same.

It's more likely they come up with a formula where teams can stretch the cap guys of their top 5 or 10 players over a five year period. Sort of like how the NBA does it. There is no way the players associations let's teams adjust contracts unilaterally.

[pbmax]

the 2021 cap demolition puts this last draft into perspective. tackle, QB, and RB...3 big contracts gone. they definitely can't keep Jones. let Bakh walk. cut/trade Rodgers after 2020 season will save, at the very least, $5m. think I read if they trade him they can split the dead cap charge over two years. that would save them even more in 2021.

They did not prep their entire draft in anticipation of the cap implosion.

They were obviously counting on it rising. Same as every other team.

This infatuation with low QB contracts is ignoring one important point. There is no evidence that Gute believes in it.

[gbgary]

They did not prep their entire draft in anticipation of the cap implosion.

They were obviously counting on it rising. Same as every other team.

cap implosion? no...but they already knew the 2021 cap space was going to be next to nothing with Rodgers drawing $36m. all covid did was insure even more contracts would have to be shed and hasten the needed rebuild. these draft picks, imo, reflect the contract dump. they know the Rodgers SB window is closed. they'll let fans fool themselves. in the meantime they have an even leaner 2021 to prepare for than they thought.

[pbmax]

cap implosion? no...but they already knew the 2021 cap space was going to be next to nothing with Rodgers drawing $36m. all covid did was insure even more contracts would have to be shed and hasten the needed rebuild. these draft picks, imo, reflect the contract dump. they know the Rodgers SB window is closed. they'll let fans fool themselves. in the meantime they have an even leaner 2021 to prepare for than they thought.

I guess we will see in 2021 then.

For what it is worth, Andy Herman laid out the scenario for you: https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-...ink-147055106/

I would like to say that if Gute has decided to go the cheap QB route, he has to take the cap hit in one year so he can spend some FA money while Love is cheap in years 3,4 and possibly 5. So the cap savings aren't going to help in 2021. They'd be carrying a dead cap hit of $30 mil or so.

If he is after cap savings, it will be a post-June 1 trade and will mean that the Packers will not go the traditional route and sign a bunch of FAs to help.

I don't think either is likely in 2021 given what we know now. Love has to develop and Rodgers is less likely to get hurt in this offense.

[texaspackerbacker]

There's not gonna be any cap implosion ....... Sheeesh, the idiotic ideas some people come up with.

[run pMc]

I agree with tex. I think they will pull some kind of "extreme circumstances" clause or something and freeze the cap for one year. The NFLPA don't want to have a bunch of players kicked to the curb, and the players sure don't want to take a pay cut.

Might create a lot of excitement if teams do have to slash cap space, but I also think the owners would rather not have the chaos, and the "shrinking middle class players" wouldn't want to get gutted from rosters.

[pbmax]

I agree with tex. I think they will pull some kind of "extreme circumstances" clause or something and freeze the cap for one year. The NFLPA don't want to have a bunch of players kicked to the curb, and the players sure don't want to take a pay cut.

Might create a lot of excitement if teams do have to slash cap space, but I also think the owners would rather not have the chaos, and the "shrinking middle class players" wouldn't want to get gutted from rosters.

This is all dependent on the owner's receiving a near normal amount fo revenue. If that doesn't happen, then it won't be just a freeze.

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This is all dependent on the owner's receiving a near normal amount fo revenue. If that doesn't happen, then it won't be just a freeze.

if there are no fans in the stands, then by just doing some real quick shitty math ($150x70,000x8 games) each team is gonna lose between 75 and 100 million, just in ticket revenue, not to mention game day merch, concesions and parking.

teams would be out a lot of money. if the cap just freezes, the owners would take all of that loss

i don't see that happening