Gutekunst's 2020 Plan Revealed

[Bretsky]

I'm a gambler and a Packer fan. I would never take that bet because 13 is rare.

HA; I thought you would be the only guy who "might" bit cause you are trying to jam the homer juice

But deep down you know we've become no better the last two days

But on the brighter note we may have the replacements when Aaron and Aaron leave

[George Cumby]

anybody wanna take a bet we don't see 13 wins next year ?

Tex will take that bet.

[MadtownPacker]

Who give a shit about 13 wins. Just need to get in the playoffs. Being @ Lambeau would not have changed last seasons ending. It just would have further tainted sacred ground.

[RashanGary]

HA; I thought you would be the only guy who "might" bit cause you are trying to jam the homer juice

But deep down you know we've become no better the last two days

But on the brighter note we may have the replacements when Aaron and Aaron leave

We're better. Defenses depend on a lot of little adjustments based on formation and how plays develop. Guys who stay together prey together. We have that going for us.

Best field general in the game right now and a lot of different attack methods available to him. Offense became more unpredictable today and AR will have mfers on their heels.

Very good ST core.

We're better through continuity and growth within. Plus the cherry on the top game manager pieces.

[Fosco33]

Maybe gute is hedging that the season won’t occur??

[Bretsky]

We're better. Defenses depend on a lot of little adjustments based on formation and how plays develop. Guys who stay together prey together. We have that going for us.

Best field general in the game right now and a lot of different attack methods available to him. Offense became more unpredictable today and AR will have mfers on their heels.

Very good ST core.

We're better through continuity and growth within. Plus the cherry on the top game manager pieces.

We lost ground in the last three days

[Smidgeon]

I still think they need another WR. I would be disappointed if in a class where you "can get a starting WR in the 5th round" the Packers walk away without getting one at all. If that happens, the draft probably fell wrong in every single round (Aiyuk in 1st, Mims in 2nd, Duverney in 3rd, etc), and that happens sometimes (TT had a couple where the players I watched all were drafted 2-3 spots before the Packers--don't remember how those classes turned out, but I was disheartened watching the draft), but I want to see at least one pass catcher in this historical draft of pass catchers.

A historically talented WR class + Green Bay desperately needs WR talent + no WR selected = mass confusion.

The Jordan Love selection's impact is unknown and potentially significant. I'm not arguing that pick. But the rest? I hope it's in the vein of a classic TT draft where I have no idea who any of these players are, he selects none that I want, and it ends up being among the best drafts in the league. But looking at it now, this is confusing and disheartening. I think we needed WRs. Gute & M4 apparently didn't agree or didn't think the value was there. In a historic draft, how can the value not be there?

Only two skill positions taken, and neither of them have the primary skill set of catching the ball. Statistics say Rodgers' receivers dropped significantly more passes than anyone else, and we didn't get someone to make that instantly better?

I'm an armchair GM (read: not even a scout), but this draft puts my benefit of the doubt on thin ice. I just don't know what to think.

[Joemailman]

anybody wanna take a bet we don't see 13 wins next year ?

Teams rarely win that many in consecutive years.

[ThunderDan]

Teams rarely win that many in consecutive years.

Yes, very tough to win 13 two years in a row.

Do we win 10 next year?

[Fosco33]

going into the draft we were 1 backup qb and 3rd strong rb away from a championship

[wist43]

Yes, very tough to win 13 two years in a row.

Do we win 10 next year?

I think we're a 9-10 win team, but not legitimate contenders... that is the TT/Gute "process/philosophy".

We'll likely trade Rodgers after this season and hope that Love isn't a bust.

Realistically, we're looking at the 2024 season for any real hope of contending.

[GB-Brandon]

Gute thinks everything is fine and you need to remain calm. This does betray an unwillingness to go all in, sacrifice the future and behave very Lions-ish to try to score a title with Rodgers as QB. But I am not sure the Pacers are, as an organization, built to be run like that.

This isn't a rebuild. This is how they work. If Love is very good, it'll probably work again. But it probably doesn't get Rodgers ring #2.

Is that your “big spin” on all of this?

Build or continue a system that does “Just good enough”?

Ignore glaring needs and hang your HOF QB out to dry?

Undermine your HOF QB by waisting valuable capital to send some signal by trading up in the 1st to get an “Average Prospect”?

This is LOSER SHIT!!!!

[pbmax]

It was 8% in 2010

That would be like AR making 16m/yr right now but in his absolute prime. That was a nice contract.

The point being that it wasn't a cheap rookie deal anymore.

[pbmax]

Is that your “big spin” on all of this?

Build or continue a system that does “Just good enough”?

Ignore glaring needs and hang your HOF QB out to dry?

Undermine your HOF QB by waisting valuable capital to send some signal by trading up in the 1st to get an “Average Prospect”?

This is LOSER SHIT!!!!

You let me know when the Cowboys win a playoff game again, OK?

[GB-Brandon]

This is epic. Pretty much everyone(Not Just Here or on some other forum) had WR as a huge need and getting Rodgers more WEAPONS a priority. Even the people who love drafting defense early every year wanted some receivers in the middle rounds. The 2020 draft was advertised as one of the best receiving classes of all time and maybe the deepest ever. Gute didn’t draft one receiver in the 2019 draft. The Packer offense sputtered all year on 3rd down. Sound like the perfect opportunity?

Heeelllllll nooooooooo!!! Gute didn’t turn 10 picks into even one WR pick. This is unacceptable. People can spin this all they want but this just obviously shows an unwillingness to do what was necessary to win more games and be successful. This is absurd.

Super Bowl? Lol. This team isn’t winning shit this year. In fact there is gonna be a blow up with the force of a bomb. This will not end well and Gute has made sure of that.