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So who is oh great one? Still waiting for the short list. 3 teams, packers aren't serious contenders. which 3 are?Originally posted by GB-Brandon View PostI Completed my evaluation of the Seahawks today and as far as I am concerned you can take them off the list. They aren't winning no Super Bowl this year and probably won't even make the playoffs. Big drop off this year for Seattle and I have them finishing 3rd in their division.
Edit: Oh, but the seahawks took the guy you would have taken with our trade up. Was it a bad move? They were 6" from the division over SF last year and took your chosen top player. Why are they not a contender now?The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Too many problems on the offensive and defensive lines. Zero pass rush. Too much age on the roster. Age = Injuries. One Rb coming off a fractured hip and the other coming off a torn ACL. I think this will be the end of the Pete Carroll era.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostSo who is oh great one? Still waiting for the short list. 3 teams, packers aren't serious contenders. which 3 are?
Edit: Oh, but the seahawks took the guy you would have taken with our trade up. Was it a bad move? They were 6" from the division over SF last year and took your chosen top player. Why are they not a contender now?
Wilson is gonna be 32 so he is certainly not a spring chicken anymore himself. He will have to win MVP to get this team into the playoffs. I don't see it. After Metcalf and Lockett they have their own receiver issues.
Packers have the better roster from top to bottom. The Seahawks and Packers both over-achieved last season. I see a little more hope for the Packers.
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I'll push this until opening kickoff. You are narrowing it down. Seahawks and packers are NOT serious contenders. Haven't seen you list ONE single team that is. You alluded to it. Give me a list of serious NFC contenders to win an Owl this year....or is it fixed and you guarantee that SF wins it because "rigged".Originally posted by GB-Brandon View PostToo many problems on the offensive and defensive lines. Zero pass rush. Too much age on the roster. Age = Injuries. One Rb coming off a fractured hip and the other coming off a torn ACL. I think this will be the end of the Pete Carroll era.
Wilson is gonna be 32 so he is certainly not a spring chicken anymore himself. He will have to win MVP to get this team into the playoffs. I don't see it. After Metcalf and Lockett they have their own receiver issues.
Packers have the better roster from top to bottom. The Seahawks and Packers both over-achieved last season. I see a little more hope for the Packers.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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San FranciscoOriginally posted by bobblehead View PostI'll push this until opening kickoff. You are narrowing it down. Seahawks and packers are NOT serious contenders. Haven't seen you list ONE single team that is. You alluded to it. Give me a list of serious NFC contenders to win an Owl this year....or is it fixed and you guarantee that SF wins it because "rigged".
Tampa Bay
New Orleans
Dallas
Philadelphia
I would put all those teams rosters ahead of the Packers right now and legit contenders in the NFC. They have all done a much better job filling holes and fielding a roster to win a Championship this year.
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Thank you. Tampa's roster isn't that good on D. Overall they are inferior to ours imo. Philadelphia also doesn't enamor me. Dallas is loaded. N.O. is pretty stellar. SF is stacked as well. HOWEVER, we have a better QB than 2 of those 3 teams, so really I only like N.O. Better than GB overall, and they have managed to screw up 2 playoffs in a row.Originally posted by GB-Brandon View PostSan Francisco
Tampa Bay
New Orleans
Dallas
Philadelphia
I would put all those teams rosters ahead of the Packers right now and legit contenders in the NFC. They have all done a much better job filling holes and fielding a roster to win a Championship this year.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Um, Brees fell off bad even before the injury. He’s manning at the end now. Rodgers is clearly better than all 3Originally posted by bobblehead View PostThank you. Tampa's roster isn't that good on D. Overall they are inferior to ours imo. Philadelphia also doesn't enamor me. Dallas is loaded. N.O. is pretty stellar. SF is stacked as well. HOWEVER, we have a better QB than 2 of those 3 teams, so really I only like N.O. Better than GB overall, and they have managed to screw up 2 playoffs in a row.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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A lot can be said for simple things like snap count, tempo, decision making and a general feel for football that makes life easier for the whole team. Even though I consider those game manager qualities to be on par with arm talent as it pertains to winning, it’s still not enough when you’re competing against guys like Rodgers and Wilson who have it all still. And guys like Jackson and Mahommes who ate quickly getting there plus elite physical talent.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Sf and no are both better than us I think however we definitely took the right steps to close with no.Originally posted by GB-Brandon View PostSan Francisco
Tampa Bay
New Orleans
Dallas
Philadelphia
I would put all those teams rosters ahead of the Packers right now and legit contenders in the NFC. They have all done a much better job filling holes and fielding a roster to win a Championship this year.
I think we match up with philly better than last year. Tb is interesting but there new qb doesn't really fit ariens down field game anymore and I don't think they are in the playoff hunt.
Dallas is a bit of a wild card with McCarthy. They do concern me but im more concerned with Detroit than Dallas.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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Dallas could very well be getting ready to sign Earl Thomas too.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostSf and no are both better than us I think however we definitely took the right steps to close with no.
I think we match up with philly better than last year. Tb is interesting but there new qb doesn't really fit ariens down field game anymore and I don't think they are in the playoff hunt.
Dallas is a bit of a wild card with McCarthy. They do concern me but im more concerned with Detroit than Dallas.
Detroit Should be a concern. I've seen their roster ranked as high as 12th in the league and they have played the Packers extremely tough. I have them as my sleeper.
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Originally posted by RashanGary View PostUm, Brees fell off bad even before the injury. He’s manning at the end now. Rodgers is clearly better than all 3
Last year Rodgers was to me not nearly as good as past years.
Whether that is him falling off , or not getting surrounded with help is debateableTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Brees QBR from ESPN crushed Rodgers 71 to 50. Standard rating was 116 to 95. Honestly it wasn't even close. Brees was 2nd to Tannehill and Rodgers was 12th.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostUm, Brees fell off bad even before the injury. He’s manning at the end now. Rodgers is clearly better than all 3The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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