Great analysis of pack future and 2020 draft by a writer I respect.

[George Cumby]

If you were a real fan you would ruminate on it until it destroyed you.

I was thinking about this the other day.

"Fan" is short for "fanatic".

A fanatic, according to MW definition 2 is: "marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion"

So for those of us who aren't "fanatics", what are we?

Whats the term, slang or otherwise, for someone who is moderately enthusiastic but doesn't get too worked up one way or the other?

Help me out, Packerrats.

[Upnorth]

I don't think we have any fanatics here by this definition. Intense UNCRITICAL devotion. We are much better at intense CRITICAL devotion, some more than othera.

[yetisnowman]

Tex is definitely 100% a Rodgers fanatic. No one else qualifies as the textbook definition.

[pbmax]

Another great Packer/Seahag game is being replayed on ESPN tonight, the Fail Mary game.

No chance I am watching that travesty.

[pbmax]

Hypervigilant critical devotion is where I come down.

[pbmax]

Now this is where things could get interesting: https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/statu...00285485510659

Ken Ingalls - Packers Cap @KenIngalls
SUPER EARLY 2021 Packers salary cap looks roughGrimacing face

Memo54 Contracted Players (15 UDFAs)
Money bag Current Cap Space: $15.3M

No entry signThis is without Free Agents Bahktiari, Clark, Linsley, King, Jones, Williams.

Keycap digit five The top 5 players (Rodgers, Smith x2, Adams, & Amos) cost $100M in salary cap.

IF IT STAYS THIS WAY, I EXPECT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN TO AMOS. NOT SURE HE'S WORTH TOP 5 ON TEAM DEAL

[texaspackerbacker]

Tex is definitely 100% a Rodgers fanatic. No one else qualifies as the textbook definition.

No one else in here maybe, but a large majority of Packer fans have that kind of common sense.

[texaspackerbacker]

I was thinking about this the other day.

"Fan" is short for "fanatic".

A fanatic, according to MW definition 2 is: "marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion"

So for those of us who aren't "fanatics", what are we?

Whats the term, slang or otherwise, for someone who is moderately enthusiastic but doesn't get too worked up one way or the other?

Help me out, Packerrats.

hahahaha Label thyself.

What I've observed in here is that most claiming to be fans care more about making snide negative remarks than they do for the team, and in the weird name of realism or whatever, are too timid (I used to say don't have the balls) to be homers.

Any exceptions, step forward and identify yourselves.

[run pMc]

Keycap digit five The top 5 players (Rodgers, Smith x2, Adams, & Amos) cost $100M in salary cap.

IF IT STAYS THIS WAY, I EXPECT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN TO AMOS. NOT SURE HE'S WORTH TOP 5 ON TEAM DEAL

If possible, I'd try to extend Adams for 2-3 more seasons and see if that would bring any cap relief. Amos could very well be a casualty if they can bring another safety along. I wonder if the cap will go up, and if so by how much. I don't think Gary will replace either Smith next year unless he really shows a big jump in him play. Of the FA's (Bahktiari, Clark, Linsley, King, Jones, Williams) I'm guessing Bahk and Clark are the highest priorities, with Jones coming in at #3. Linsley, Williams, King are probably not re-signed (although Jamaal could be brought back on the cheap).

Of course this means they extend Jones and let Bahk walk in favor of bringing back Marshall Newhouse.

[Rastak]

If possible, I'd try to extend Adams for 2-3 more seasons and see if that would bring any cap relief. Amos could very well be a casualty if they can bring another safety along. I wonder if the cap will go up, and if so by how much. I don't think Gary will replace either Smith next year unless he really shows a big jump in him play. Of the FA's (Bahktiari, Clark, Linsley, King, Jones, Williams) I'm guessing Bahk and Clark are the highest priorities, with Jones coming in at #3. Linsley, Williams, King are probably not re-signed (although Jamaal could be brought back on the cheap).

Of course this means they extend Jones and let Bahk walk in favor of bringing back Marshall Newhouse.

It's based on revenue so I am expecting it to go down which will likely sting both Minnesota and Green Bay.

[texaspackerbacker]

Now this is where things could get interesting: https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/statu...00285485510659

Ken Ingalls - Packers Cap @KenIngalls
SUPER EARLY 2021 Packers salary cap looks roughGrimacing face

Memo54 Contracted Players (15 UDFAs)
Money bag Current Cap Space: $15.3M

No entry signThis is without Free Agents Bahktiari, Clark, Linsley, King, Jones, Williams.

Keycap digit five The top 5 players (Rodgers, Smith x2, Adams, & Amos) cost $100M in salary cap.

IF IT STAYS THIS WAY, I EXPECT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN TO AMOS. NOT SURE HE'S WORTH TOP 5 ON TEAM DEAL

Seems like a little bit of apples and oranges going on here. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you talking about the 2021 situation using 2020 cap figures? True, Clark, Jones, Linsley, Bakhtiari, and King will be expensive to re-sign, but the salary cap has gone up by $55 million over the last 5 seasons. We can probably count on at least $11 million more next season. If you add that to the $15.3 million leftover now and figure in the roughly $25 million those guys are counting now, signing as many of them as we want should be well within reason.

[red]

Now this is where things could get interesting: https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/statu...00285485510659

Ken Ingalls - Packers Cap @KenIngalls
SUPER EARLY 2021 Packers salary cap looks roughGrimacing face

Memo54 Contracted Players (15 UDFAs)
Money bag Current Cap Space: $15.3M

No entry signThis is without Free Agents Bahktiari, Clark, Linsley, King, Jones, Williams.

Keycap digit five The top 5 players (Rodgers, Smith x2, Adams, & Amos) cost $100M in salary cap.

IF IT STAYS THIS WAY, I EXPECT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN TO AMOS. NOT SURE HE'S WORTH TOP 5 ON TEAM DEAL

thats a lot of money to just sit on for reserves

especially when all the big name players signing big contracts are usually gone by the time the season starts

most players you sign during the season are minimum wage guys who are gonna be replacing other minimum wage guys

we're also sitting on about 11 million in free cap this year. but they were nice enough to say we have zero rollover

i call complete BS on those guys

fudge some numbers to get some clicks

[Smidgeon]

Now this is where things could get interesting: https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/statu...00285485510659

Ken Ingalls - Packers Cap @KenIngalls
SUPER EARLY 2021 Packers salary cap looks roughGrimacing face

Memo54 Contracted Players (15 UDFAs)
Money bag Current Cap Space: $15.3M

No entry signThis is without Free Agents Bahktiari, Clark, Linsley, King, Jones, Williams.

Keycap digit five The top 5 players (Rodgers, Smith x2, Adams, & Amos) cost $100M in salary cap.

IF IT STAYS THIS WAY, I EXPECT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN TO AMOS. NOT SURE HE'S WORTH TOP 5 ON TEAM DEAL

Almost makes me wonder if they expected 1-2 of their FA acquisitions to fail and come off the books. How rare is it for a significant high-priced class to all be upgrades. And yes, Turner may be a weakness, but he's still an improvement over two prior turnstile years.

[GB-Brandon]

hahahaha Label thyself.

What I've observed in here is that most claiming to be fans care more about making snide negative remarks than they do for the team, and in the weird name of realism or whatever, are too timid (I used to say don't have the balls) to be homers.

Any exceptions, step forward and identify yourselves.

The whole thing is an expensive investment so for me the “buy in” equals the effort put in by the front office to take a chance and go for it. I’ve seen this movie play out far too many times with them having one foot in so I’m gonna go with one foot in. Tickets, Road Games, Travel, Gambling, Time etc etc adds up quickly.

When they decide too pull their heads out of their ass’s and quit “Pussy Footing Around” then the “buy in” from more fans(fanatics) would equal out more IMO.

[George Cumby]

Hypervigilant critical devotion is where I come down.

Fine. You’re a “Hype”.

Tex is a “fan”.