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  • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...ow-with-chase/

    Now here is a mock draft with a dilemma. When the packers pick Teven Jenkins, Christian Barmore and Craig Newsome are all available. Mock has them going Jenkins. I could be happy with either pick. Might spend my 15 minutes talking to KC about acquiring pick 31 also.
    Pick Jenkins then try to trade back into the 1st immediately and get Newsome.
    The get an assistant defensive coordinator and fire Barry. Then go get our owl
    All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

    George Orwell

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    • I think Jenkins, JOK, Newsome, and Bateman will all like very gone before 29.
      wist

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      • JOK is kinda my fav right now. I liked mayfield on tape but I’m going to take his athletic limitations into account and drop him from the round 1 hopes list. As high as isiah Simmons went last year, a more instinctive even if slightly less athletic version should go top 20.

        Any OL the Packers might take I’m gonna have hope for. We do well with OL.

        I’ll watch Bateman and Newsome next.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
          Yeah, I say inside because I consider edge to be on the line of scrimmage. I could have said and should have said “off ball”
          yeah, I think Draft Network is wrong about the number of top 65 off-ball LBs (I call them ILBs). I'm highly skeptical of Baron Browning at 18. Top 100, yeah. I don't think GB is the only team out there who prioritizes other positions over ILB, and with so many sub-package defenses taking LBs off the field I'd think S would be more important. There are a number of teams including GB who use 3 safety looks.

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          • Originally posted by run pMc View Post
            yeah, I think Draft Network is wrong about the number of top 65 off-ball LBs (I call them ILBs). I'm highly skeptical of Baron Browning at 18. Top 100, yeah. I don't think GB is the only team out there who prioritizes other positions over ILB, and with so many sub-package defenses taking LBs off the field I'd think S would be more important. There are a number of teams including GB who use 3 safety looks.
            True and probably the reason for so few ILBs going in the top two rounds the last 5-10 years. Jeremiah Owusu Koramoah is my favorite fit for this team. He can play sub almost like a safety and base almost like a linebacker. In the back 7, where chemistry and playing together is so important, I like a guy who never comes off the field. Less moving parts means more cohesiveness. Plus he’s a super instinctive, tough, fast PLAYMAKER, so he brings impact. I’d love to see him fall to the Packers. After that, I’m not sold on anyone. They’re too limited for modern defenses and Barnes looks solid enough to win with as the main off ball linebacker in our defense. It’s just not a need, outside of a special fit. And most teams have one good linebacker so they will all let them slide probably.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • As I said earlier, most of the guys we're looking at will likely be gone by 29...

              I'm thinking the guy I like at 29, assuming all those other names are off the board, is Kadarius Toney.

              Think he would add an explosive element to our offense.
              wist

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              • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                JOK is kinda my fav right now. I liked mayfield on tape but I’m going to take his athletic limitations into account and drop him from the round 1 hopes list. As high as isiah Simmons went last year, a more instinctive even if slightly less athletic version should go top 20.

                Any OL the Packers might take I’m gonna have hope for. We do well with OL.

                I’ll watch Bateman and Newsome next.
                Agree. JOK is a late riser as "mock analysts" realize he is the prototypical hybrid billionaires version of Raven Green that teams desire.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                  True and probably the reason for so few ILBs going in the top two rounds the last 5-10 years. Jeremiah Owusu Koramoah is my favorite fit for this team. He can play sub almost like a safety and base almost like a linebacker. In the back 7, where chemistry and playing together is so important, I like a guy who never comes off the field. Less moving parts means more cohesiveness. Plus he’s a super instinctive, tough, fast PLAYMAKER, so he brings impact. I’d love to see him fall to the Packers. After that, I’m not sold on anyone. They’re too limited for modern defenses and Barnes looks solid enough to win with as the main off ball linebacker in our defense. It’s just not a need, outside of a special fit. And most teams have one good linebacker so they will all let them slide probably.
                  You like my Raven Greene comp? I have said for 2 1/2 years now that this defense is different with Raven on the field....and he isn't nearly the player JOK would be.
                  The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                  • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    You like my Raven Greene comp? I have said for 2 1/2 years now that this defense is different with Raven on the field....and he isn't nearly the player JOK would be.
                    Pretty much but better at everything, yeah. And I could see him getting up to 225 later in his career with that length giving him more space to add weight.
                    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                    • Whatever Gute does with this draft, I expect to be baffled and largely dislike (and possibly hate) it. Just like when TT was in charge.

                      By June, I'll have rationalized his moves away, or at least come to accept them as fait accompli and cheer for the bastards.

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                      • Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                        Whatever Gute does with this draft, I expect to be baffled and largely dislike (and possibly hate) it. Just like when TT was in charge.

                        By June, I'll have rationalized his moves away, or at least come to accept them as fait accompli and cheer for the bastards.
                        This is a far more plausible prediction than trying to guess the player. The Packer brass loves to make us squirm with head scratcher round 1 picks. At least Alexander, Gary and Savage are all panning out. Gute seems to be doing a nice job with his round 1 guys.
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                          As I said earlier, most of the guys we're looking at will likely be gone by 29...

                          I'm thinking the guy I like at 29, assuming all those other names are off the board, is Kadarius Toney.

                          Think he would add an explosive element to our offense.


                          agree; definitely would prefer Bateman but this guy would add a dimension we don't have
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                            agree; definitely would prefer Bateman but this guy would add a dimension we don't have
                            Starting to see more buzz on Toney... getting the impression he'll likely be gone by 29 too.

                            Of all the guys I've listed so far, I think most of them will be gone... gonna have to dig a little deeper
                            wist

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                            • All of these guys aren't going to be gone when we pick. Toney is solid. I think he's projected right around where I have (late 1st). I like Marshall as much as Toney. Not sure if we would be looking more for a slot guy, but with most of our guys unsigned after this year we probably need to take a look at outside receivers too. One guy that doesn't generate a lot of buzz, but I think we would fit for us is Dyami Brown of North Carolina. He's a great deep ball guy and one of the better blockers in this draft class.

                              Dyami Brown Highlights
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • This is kinda cool.

                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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