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  • #541
    The more I read up on this draft, the more I realize I have no freaking clue what's going to happen Thursday night. Projections on guys like Newsome, Jenkins and JOK are all over the place. Gute will have a really tough job trying to figure out whether he needs to trade up to get a certain guy (which he's done in every draft), or whether that player will fall to him.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #542
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      The more I read up on this draft, the more I realize I have no freaking clue what's going to happen Thursday night. Projections on guys like Newsome, Jenkins and JOK are all over the place. Gute will have a really tough job trying to figure out whether he needs to trade up to get a certain guy (which he's done in every draft), or whether that player will fall to him.
      They’re all impossible to pick. The first 20 are usually somewhat accurate. After that, completely off the media script.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #543
        Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
        The fan theories around drafting of Love are overblown. Much like the Rodgers pick, they most likely saw great value and had him highly rated. They know as well as anyone QBs bust as much as they hit even at the top of the first round. Why would they be stupid enough to assume Love is they next HoF QB by planning to jettison Rodgers before necessary?

        Hint, they aren't that stupid,and that's not what they're doing.



        It sounds like we overvalued Jordan Love; he's a project with upside. He was a reach to give up a 1st and 4th for him. On ESPN they were polling a couple scouts on where Jordan Love would compare to this years QB's.

        Both scouts agreed this year he'd be behind Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, and Lance. One scout rated him as the 5th best this year and the other rated him behind Mac frickin Jones.

        So last year he was the 5th best QB by most ratings and this year he would have been 5th/maybe 6th.
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • #544
          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          The more I read up on this draft, the more I realize I have no freaking clue what's going to happen Thursday night. Projections on guys like Newsome, Jenkins and JOK are all over the place. Gute will have a really tough job trying to figure out whether he needs to trade up to get a certain guy (which he's done in every draft), or whether that player will fall to him.

          Most likely Gute has a prematuredraftjacuation and loses patience, and trades up and gets a guy he craves...and hopefully doesn't reach for
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #545
            Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
            McGinns scouts they they’ve never seen so many off ball linebackers in the top 75. They said there were good starters to be found in the 4th round.

            I’m also not the only guy who really likes Pere Werner.

            In the third, a high upside guy like Chazz Surratt would make sense. Or a rock solid guy like Jabril Cox.


            Werner is fine, but I'm not seeing him in round 1. Are you ?
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #546
              Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
              It sounds like we overvalued Jordan Love; he's a project with upside. He was a reach to give up a 1st and 4th for him. On ESPN they were polling a couple scouts on where Jordan Love would compare to this years QB's.

              Both scouts agreed this year he'd be behind Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, and Lance. One scout rated him as the 5th best this year and the other rated him behind Mac frickin Jones.

              So last year he was the 5th best QB by most ratings and this year he would have been 5th/maybe 6th.
              Maybe, but my point is people are reading way too much into the pick.

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              • #547
                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                It sounds like we overvalued Jordan Love; he's a project with upside. He was a reach to give up a 1st and 4th for him. On ESPN they were polling a couple scouts on where Jordan Love would compare to this years QB's.

                Both scouts agreed this year he'd be behind Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, and Lance. One scout rated him as the 5th best this year and the other rated him behind Mac frickin Jones.

                So last year he was the 5th best QB by most ratings and this year he would have been 5th/maybe 6th.
                Even if Love was the #6 QB in the 2021 draft, he'd likely be a top 20 pick, if not higher. That's why Gute made the move up to draft Love. He saw the opportunity to draft a caliber of QB that winning teams like the Packers seldom have a shot at.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #548
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  Even if Love was the #6 QB in the 2021 draft, he'd likely be a top 20 pick, if not higher. That's why Gute made the move up to draft Love. He saw the opportunity to draft a caliber of QB that winning teams like the Packers seldom have a shot at.

                  HUGE dropoff after the top 5. The 6th may not get drafted for a long time after. I'm not saying he would not get picked in round 1 or 2. But I don't think ti's any lock he's top 20
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #549
                    Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                    It sounds like we overvalued Jordan Love; he's a project with upside. He was a reach to give up a 1st and 4th for him. On ESPN they were polling a couple scouts on where Jordan Love would compare to this years QB's.

                    Both scouts agreed this year he'd be behind Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, and Lance. One scout rated him as the 5th best this year and the other rated him behind Mac frickin Jones.

                    So last year he was the 5th best QB by most ratings and this year he would have been 5th/maybe 6th.
                    Dumb, and not even close. The four guys this year will go in the top 10. Maybe all 5 guys. We got Love late in the 1st round. Love went around where he was projected to go. I looked at my draft spreadsheet last year, and almost every big board that I have documented had Love as a 1st round pick. Only one had him as a 2nd round pick. The reason we drafted him was because of the value. The reason we traded up was because Gute had intel that another team liked him.

                    C'mon man. Quit beating this dead friggin' horse. You're better than this.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • #550
                      Just dumb
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • #551
                        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                        Werner is fine, but I'm not seeing him in round 1. Are you ?
                        A scout said he was hoping he was a secret but he’s not
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • #552
                          I read that today; McGinn is pretty amazing
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #553
                            McGinn is amazing at generating readership with provocative, seemingly inside commentary.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #554
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                              Dumb, and not even close. The four guys this year will go in the top 10. Maybe all 5 guys. We got Love late in the 1st round. Love went around where he was projected to go. I looked at my draft spreadsheet last year, and almost every big board that I have documented had Love as a 1st round pick. Only one had him as a 2nd round pick. The reason we drafted him was because of the value. The reason we traded up was because Gute had intel that another team liked him.

                              C'mon man. Quit beating this dead friggin' horse. You're better than this.
                              This is bang on. And let's face UT no one saw rodgers getting MVP. We hoped he would rebound but that was an unreal jump. Injured older qbs don't tend to jump like that.
                              All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                              George Orwell

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                              • #555
                                I fully expect to be baffled and at least mildly angry when Gute picks some boom-or-bust athlete at a position of where we have adequate depth. (I'm afraid to name names and jinx things.)

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