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  • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
    Think Goootie and AROD are having a staredown right now on the extension Rodgers wants ?

    Wilde and Tauscher think while Gootie is insane on this, he basically wants the opposite of what Rodgers wants and just wants to go year to year with him
    This is basically what I think as well. I don't think he'll do it but I could easily see how someone in Rodgers shoes could - arguably should - hold out. I wouldn't blame him. I get it - he's old, etc. But even Tampa took care of Tom Brady who is what, 6 years older? How do you do your MVP dirty like that when he can bring that fact to the negotiating table? What do you even do beyond turtle up?

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    • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
      Think Goootie and AROD are having a staredown right now on the extension Rodgers wants ?

      Wilde and Tauscher think while Gootie is insane on this, he basically wants the opposite of what Rodgers wants and just wants to go year to year with him
      The NFL contract and salary cap landscape can often be confusing territory for fans, but PFF's Brad Spielberger lays out what you should know ahead of 2021 NFL free agency.


      In the vast majority of veteran NFL contracts, there are now “automatic conversion” clauses, meaning the team can do this unilaterally without the player signing off. The player gets the cash up front as a bonus, so it’s not exactly the worst thing in the world, but they are doing the team a favor.
      Last edited by HarveyWallbangers; 03-18-2021, 01:17 AM.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
        But even Tampa took care of Tom Brady who is what, 6 years older?
        Not really. Brady is a bargain at $25M/year. That's like decent starter level pay in the NFL nowadays.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
          This is basically what I think as well. I don't think he'll do it but I could easily see how someone in Rodgers shoes could - arguably should - hold out. I wouldn't blame him. I get it - he's old, etc. But even Tampa took care of Tom Brady who is what, 6 years older? How do you do your MVP dirty like that when he can bring that fact to the negotiating table? What do you even do beyond turtle up?
          Sure the player can feel like that but I invite the fans to look at the saints falcon and Steelers. They would have been forced to make cuts in a normal year with their approach. Our salary cap looks bad next year already with the smiths. Why make it worse. And then point out how affordable arod is in his final year. Why lose that?
          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

          George Orwell

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          • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
            I'd take the 2nd round pick, to be honest. If you told me we could have Tonyan for 4 years on his rookie contract, then I'd take Tonyan. However, I'd take a 2nd round pick over Tonyan nearing the end of his rookie contract.
            Harv, that's a mind-bender for me. We have seen how this offense becomes limited when there is not a real threat at TE. Now we have one. A possible blue-chip guy, if he improves. And he's young.

            That's exactly the kind of player you want to keep. I won't run through the list of lousy second round picks the Packers have made over the course of the years, but you see the point.

            I'm scratching my head at your willingness to let Tonyan go for a second round pick.
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • I agree Fritz. With the way Tonyan is developing and becoming a real weapon, I wouldn't be in any hurry to let him go for a 2nd Rounder. He's becoming a known commodity and we've had/have enough Josh Jackson's and Josh Jones on the roster. (Maybe it's a, "Josh" thing??)

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              • Crazy shit that had to happen this year dept....

                Last season Kyle Van Noy left NE and signed a big contract with the Dolphins.

                This off-season, Miami cut Van Noy. The Patriots resigned him. NE was also awarded a 4th round comp pick for the Dolphin signing of Van Noy.

                So NE gets Van Noy AND a 4th round pick.

                OY Vay!.

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                • Former Packers’ DE Montravius Adams reached agreement with the Patriots on a 1-year deal worth up to 2.5 million, per @DrewJRosenhaus, who now has done five deals this week with New England.
                  — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 18, 2021

                  #Packers only got 595 total defensive snaps out of Montravius Adams, the 93rd overall pick in 2017. 1.5 sacks, 44 tackles.
                  — Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) March 18, 2021

                  Wow, not sure what Hoodie ever saw in Adams that was worth 2.5M for 1 year.

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                  • DL take time to develop. Adams has been slowly ascending. He could have his best years in front of him. Or he could fizzle out. DL takes time tho.
                    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                    • Adams actually graded out well this year per PFF. Just couldn’t stay on the field.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                        Think Goootie and AROD are having a staredown right now on the extension Rodgers wants ?

                        Wilde and Tauscher think while Gootie is insane on this, he basically wants the opposite of what Rodgers wants and just wants to go year to year with him
                        Everything we can see from the outside supports this. Rodgers wants more years at big money after the age of 40 and Gutes is smarter than that. Rodgers in turn is refusing to restructure this season.

                        Or the other possibility is that Gutes hasn't offered the restructure as that would make it near impossible to move on from Rodgers after this season through trade or otherwise.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                          This is basically what I think as well. I don't think he'll do it but I could easily see how someone in Rodgers shoes could - arguably should - hold out. I wouldn't blame him. I get it - he's old, etc. But even Tampa took care of Tom Brady who is what, 6 years older? How do you do your MVP dirty like that when he can bring that fact to the negotiating table? What do you even do beyond turtle up?
                          Brady took $25 million a year. How did Tampa "take care" of him? If Rodgers holds out, he instantly becomes the villain in the story. He is under contract for THREE more years. Pack gave him a mountain of cash and guaranteed money to sign said deal. He has every right to hold tight and play out the deal, but the second he holds out he is in the wrong. If he did that I almost guarantee they don't budge and trade him after the season.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • Originally posted by SMBASS View Post
                            Former Packers’ DE Montravius Adams reached agreement with the Patriots on a 1-year deal worth up to 2.5 million, per @DrewJRosenhaus, who now has done five deals this week with New England.
                            — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 18, 2021

                            #Packers only got 595 total defensive snaps out of Montravius Adams, the 93rd overall pick in 2017. 1.5 sacks, 44 tackles.
                            — Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) March 18, 2021

                            Wow, not sure what Hoodie ever saw in Adams that was worth 2.5M for 1 year.
                            Same thing he saw in Lawrence Guy.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • If Rodgers doesn't restructure, it isn't because they are having a staredown. Packers can turn his roster bonus into a signing bonus without his consent. If it's not done, it's because the Packers don't want to give up the flexibility they have with Rodgers. They won't do it unless they have to (meaning there is a FA available for them to sign, and they need to do it).
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • CB Troy Hill signed an affordable deal. Wish we would have gotten him for the price.
                                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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